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 Post subject: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2002 7:27 pm 

Today was an abnormally damp and cold Easter Sunday here in the South. A walk between showers to the post office made me think about a similar day about 10 years ago when N&W 611 powered an excursion from Lexington to Stearns, Ky. and steam heated the coaches. Just curious as to how many of our operating tourist lines or museums still employ steam heat. Jim

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 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2002 9:40 pm 

Hi Jim,

> Just curious as to how many of
> our operating tourist lines or museums still
> employ steam heat.

I know the original Edaville did.

Best Regards,
Glenn


christenseng@altavista.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2002 10:32 pm 

> Just curious as to how many of
> our operating tourist lines or museums still
> employ steam heat. Jim

for the count...Heber Valley does not.


Heber Valley Railroad
utweyesguy@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2002 11:40 pm 

Just curious as to how many of
> our operating tourist lines or museums still
> employ steam heat. Jim
The Huckleberry RR looked hard at using steam heat inour coaches, but finally went with a propane fired RV type system. But they had picked up a lot of steam heat equipment which is sitting on the shelves in our storage building. Anyone looking for steam heat parts? What have you got to trade? Call Marty Knox - (810)789-8508, or see me in Baraboo next weekend.

Martyhuck@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 12:05 am 

>
>Add Steamtown to the list. Steam heat is a beautiful thing.


  
 
 Post subject: Steam Air Conditioning
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 3:43 pm 

With the normally hot & humid southern summer coming up, how about steam air conditioning?

I know the Age of Steam in Dallas has a Santa Fe round end observation car (3197?) that still has its steam ejector A?C system intact. Don't know when was the last time it was actually used.

The AOS's operational M-160 doodlebug still has its steam generator and could possibly supply steam for the observation car.

> Today was an abnormally damp and cold Easter
> Sunday here in the South. A walk between
> showers to the post office made me think
> about a similar day about 10 years ago when
> N&W 611 powered an excursion from
> Lexington to Stearns, Ky. and steam heated
> the coaches. Just curious as to how many of
> our operating tourist lines or museums still
> employ steam heat. Jim


Railway Preservation News
hkading@rypn.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Air Conditioning
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 4:18 pm 

Hey .. If caboose refrigerators worked by lighting a kerosene lamp, why not!


lamontdc@adelphia.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Air Conditioning
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 4:23 pm 

Santa Fe and Milwaukee Road used steam ejector air conditioning. Were there others?

tmanz@afo.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 10:15 pm 

> Today was an abnormally damp and cold Easter
> Sunday here in the South. A walk between
> showers to the post office made me think
> about a similar day about 10 years ago when
> N&W 611 powered an excursion from
> Lexington to Stearns, Ky. and steam heated
> the coaches. Just curious as to how many of
> our operating tourist lines or museums still
> employ steam heat. Jim
Connecticut's Valley Railroad, to the dismay of some of our firemen (hee, hee), still uses steam heat on its regular excursion train.

drotarinoh@webtv.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 10:27 pm 

We still use steam heat, keeps our coaches warm and cozy in the Canadian winter.

info@steamtrain.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat, Propane and Regulations
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 4:38 pm 

Yup, Steamtown uses steam heat, of course half the coaches are former DL&W MU cars, so propane heaters are now in place on those. I'm wondering what regulations apply to propane tanks stored under passenger cars, any at all? Are placards neccessary in this situation? I'm interested to hear a few thoughts on this.....

Dave Crosby

bing@epix.net


  
 
 Post subject: Another use of Propane by railroads
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 11:51 pm 

Begining in the late 1930s a number of railroads used Waukesha propane gas engines to run generators or ice engines (air conditioning). The Southern Pacific was one of these railroads.

At Orange Empire we have ex-Soo Line business car #54 that has a Waukesha driven ice engine. It's been a number of years since we've used the Waukesha.

Brian Norden

bnorden49@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Another use of Propane by railroads
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2002 12:59 pm 

Any car with propane was (and is) prohibited from the North and East River tubes into Penn Station NY. Also prohibited was gasoline (used by Army Troop kitchens)



The Electric City Trolley Museum Association


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2002 6:58 pm 

I know Indiana Transportation Musuem uses steam heat from a frmer GN steam heat car (ex EMD FB unit conversion). The stainless steel cars all still have steam heat systems. I think the Whitewater Valley in southern Indiana also uses steam heat from one of their Alco diesels.

Jim


jkisinger@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Steam Heat
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 1:08 am 

> I know Indiana Transportation Musuem uses
> steam heat from a frmer GN steam heat car
> (ex EMD FB unit conversion). The stainless
> steel cars all still have steam heat
> systems. I think the Whitewater Valley in
> southern Indiana also uses steam heat from
> one of their Alco diesels.

> Jim

Actually Jim, the Whitewater Valley Railroad pulls a seperate steam heat car behind our diesels as we are not set up with HEP in our old switchers. I believe it is in a converted box car.
Not all our diesels are Alcos, either. As a matter of fact, we have two Baldwins coming in as soon as a little politics with N&S is settled.

-Angie


Ladypardus@cs.com


  
 
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