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| Author: | Sloan [ Sat May 01, 2010 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | San Francisco; the rolling transit museum known as F line |
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| Author: | survivingworldsteam [ Wed May 05, 2010 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Francisco; the rolling transit museum known as F line |
My wife and I just came back from a wonderful trip to San Francisco, with Ted Miles as our host and guide. I saw the cobalt blue and canary yellow painted car, the oldest car from the 1920s (looks like an electrified horse car), the roofless Blackpool tram, and rode one of the PCC cars (my first ride on a PCC car.) I highly recommend riding the F-line to the end, paying a visit to Ted at the San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park to see the steamships, and walking back up the hill to ride the cable cars (if you don't mind waiting in line.) The combined experience was great; and we thank Ted for being such a gracious and informative host and guide. Oh, and among the various museums in SF, there is also a streetcar museum on the F-line; admission is free, and it is worth a visit. |
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| Author: | p51 [ Wed May 05, 2010 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Francisco; the rolling transit museum known as F line |
My wife and I were in SF a few years ago and rode this all the way uptown. They had a new Pacific Electric painted PCC at that point but we never got to ride on it. It’s a great ride and even a non-railfan would enjoy it! |
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| Author: | Bob Davis [ Thu May 06, 2010 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Francisco; the rolling transit museum known as F line |
Being a big Pacific Electric fan, I naturally was glad to see a Muni car honoring my favorite railway. The only "downer" about this is that some folks have thought that Muni 1061 really came from the Red Car system, and I have to advise them (gently but firmly) that there are no PE PCC's left; they were all sold to a railway in Argentina and were scrapped in the 1960's. Furthermore the PE cars were a unique double-end center-door design, they were built by Pullman, and were air-electric MU cars. Nevertheless, I still enjoy seeing the PE "tribute car" on Market St. or the Embarcadero. (it's presently out of service "awaiting parts"). Another car that makes Southern California fans feel at home is Muni 1052, which is in the Los Angeles Railway paint job from 1937. By the time PCC's had standee windows and all-electric brake and door motor systems, LARy had sold out to LA Transit Lines, so we have a somewhat less obvious anachronism. There is a genuine 1937 LARy PCC at Orange Empire in the same two-tone yellow paint job. Another Pacific Electric "tribute" that I like in MuniLand is the air whistles that the Milan trams from the 1920's were fitted with to comply with PUC warning-device requirements. One day I boarded a Milan tram at Van Ness, and the "clatter gong" failed, so the motorman had to use the air whistle all the way to the Wharf. What a delight for a PE fan! (although it probably scared some pedestrians). I also found that restored Muni car 162 (Jewett 1914) also has a PE-style whistle when I rode it last month. It's like during its long "exile" in Southern California (OERM in Perris), it learned to speak "Pacific Electric". |
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| Author: | JimBoylan [ Fri May 07, 2010 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: San Francisco; the rolling transit museum known as F line |
L.A. M.T.A. did test one of their PCCs on the P.E. Long Beach line, using borrowed San Fransisco trucks. So, there's a bit more reality to your dream. |
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