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| Author: | rjj400@aol.com [ Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
Does anyone have a history or heritage of each car and locomotive on the former "Spirit" trainset? Any information on the equipment heritage would be much appreciated. |
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| Author: | o anderson [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
listed here: http://www.trains-trams-trolleys.com/home/spirit.htm Additionally, several years ago I saw an EMD B-unit from the operation sitting in Oakdale CA on the Sierra Northern. |
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| Author: | SZuiderveen [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
o anderson wrote: listed here: http://www.trains-trams-trolleys.com/home/spirit.htm Additionally, several years ago I saw an EMD B-unit from the operation sitting in Oakdale CA on the Sierra Northern. O, "rjj400" is the present part-owner of D.F. Barnhardt! He is looking for the geneology of the items he is the agent to sell, because the equipment owner may not know! Steve |
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| Author: | ctjacks [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
Are you familiar with WebLurker's Dome Main web site? It has details on the domes. The full-length one, at the bottom of this page: http://www.trainweb.org/web_lurker/MILWf/ The UP dome, as UP 8000: http://www.trainweb.org/web_lurker/UP/ The Santa Fe dome: http://www.trainweb.org/web_lurker/ATSF/ Note that the UP and MILW cars had the fluting applied by the owner of the dinner train. I am pretty sure the obs car is ex-Reading from the Crusader train. Chris. |
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| Author: | SZuiderveen [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
ctjacks wrote: I am pretty sure the obs car is ex-Reading from the Crusader train. Chris. Chris, I am not so sure about the Crusader car. Unless CN modified the end, the car in the ads is too flat to be a Crusader car. Please see this photo of the Crusader obs at Strasburg:  Steve |
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| Author: | RDGRAILFAN [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
They had Obs car Reading Company #5 sister car to #1 currently at the Railroad Museum of PA on site a few years back, This car is not a match as I look at the window arrangements, roof vent, tail unless they did heavy Mod's to the car. I did see RDG 5 on site at one time,It has been over 5 years (?) did not have much time to look at it due to schedule The build date of 1937 matches, RDG #1 its sister car as shown above. |
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| Author: | gbrewer [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
Here is a little story I wrote just before they went out of business; it includes some photos: http://railroadglorydays.com/dinnertrain Glen http://RailroadGloryDays.com |
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| Author: | Miketherailfan [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
Someone show Jerry Jacobson that link...... |
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| Author: | RDGRAILFAN [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spiriit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
Here is a link to a photo of RDG#5 in Spirit of Washington paint, still has the correct tail. http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?20061 ... 017630.jpg another view, check the roof vent. here is car 101 listed as an open air car, check the roof vent. http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPictur ... id=1060407 Now i am more confused as to what happened to this car, it appears #5 was converted to an open air coach and had the rear chopped at one time. seems to be a bigger mystery, car inventory as listed on http://passcarphotos.info/Indices/V4.htm # WCRC - Washington Central Spirit of Washington Dinner Train # WCRC 101 Olympic - Budd open-air coach, rblt. from??? (History???) (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 102 Columbia Winery - Budd dining car rblt. from lounge. (History???) (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 103 Cascade - (ex-NJT, nee-ATSF) Budd coach. (History???) (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 104 City of Seattle - (ex-I>Spirit of Washington, exx-PV, exxx-AMTK 9351, nee-AT&SF 501) PS Pleasure Dome lounge car. (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 105 Chateau Ste. Michelle - (ex-CN 302, nee-RDG 5) Budd coach RE observation. (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 105 Chateau Ste. Michelle - (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 106 Mount Rainier - (ex-800, exx-ATC 800, nee-UP 8000) ACF dome - diner. (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 107 - LW power car rblt from baggage - express. (History???) (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) # WCRC 108 City of Renton - (ex-59, exx-P&O Princess, exxx-TAIX - Tour Alaska 7093, exxxxx-PV, exxxxxx-AMTK 9383, nee-MILW 59) PS Super Dome lounge car. (NEW ENGLAND RAIL) # WCRC 108 City of Renton - (RR PICTURE ARCHIVES) |
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| Author: | robertjohndavis [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
Yikes! If that open car is the Crusader car, where is it now? It is not on the auction list. Rob |
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| Author: | KevinO [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
robertjohndavis wrote: Yikes! If that open car is the Crusader car, where is it now? It is not on the auction list. Rob The open car is not the Crusader car. I came across a photo on rrpicturearchives.net from 2009 showing both cars in the same train. In addition the Crusader car was not rebuilt with a blunt end. Those are two different obs cars. Hopefully many of these cars will find a new home somewhere if they cannot find a buyer for the whole trainset. Those Fs would look great at the B&O museum. Keep one as is and repaint it to the early MARC scheme and let the other one be restored cosmetically to as built condition. Kevin |
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| Author: | weekendrailroader [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spirit Of Washington Dinner Train Rolling Stock |
From an old Spirit of Washington Dinner Train brochure: Olympic Round End Car-Capacity 46 Built 1937 for the Reading Railroad Mt. Rainier Dome Car- Capacity 57 Built 1952 for Union Pacific Columbia Winery Dining/Bar Car-Capacity 64 Built 1938 for Santa Fe Railroad City of Renton Super Dome Car-Capacity 72 Built 1952 for Chicago Milwaukee St. Paul Pacific Railroad Cascade Kitchen Car-Capacity 48 Built 1937 for The Santa Fe Railroad City of Seattle Dome Car-Capacity 59 Built 1950 for the Santa Fe Railroad Chateau Ste. Micelle Platform Car- Capacity 24 Built 1937 for The Santa Fe Railroad F7A Locomotives- Built 1953 1750 HP Diesel Electric (These were the locomotives now at the Carrizo Gorge RR) Also take into account that the WCRC had another train built of similar, if not identical, cars. It was called the Pacific Starlight Dinner Train, and I believe it has since been sold to Canada. The Spirit of Washington originally ran in Yakima with WCRC power and three streamlined cars (including a round-end observation) that were named after places in Eastern Washington. |
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