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Author:  Timothy Davis [ Tue May 14, 2002 8:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Looking for double-decker tram info

About 2 or 3 years ago, I made a list, and some notes, of places where you could currently find either operational and/or static displays of double-decker trolleys/trams. Recently I was updating my list and in less than a week I found 2 more places by accident. Below is an organized and condensed version of my list. Does anybody have anything to add to it? Any corrections? Please include a website, if there is one. Thank you.

NOTE: Places with operational cars may also have cars on static display.

Crich, England,
National Railway Museum
Status: Operational

London, England,
London Transport Museum
Status: Static Display

Beamish, England,
North of England Open Air Museum
Status: Operational

Birkenhead, England,
Dockland in Merseyside
Status: Operational

Blackpool, England,
Promenade tramway
Status: Operational

Lowestoft, England,
East Anglia Transport Museum
Status: Operational

Summerlee, Scotland,
Summerlee Tramway
Status: Operational

Luzern (Lucerne), Switzerland,
Swiss Transport Museum
Status: Static Display

Hong Kong,
City streets
Status: Operational

Lake Oswego, Oregon,
Willamette Shore Trolley
Status: Operational

Kennebunkport, Maine,
Seashore Trolley Museum
Status: Static Display

Perris, California,
Orange Empire Railway Museum
Status: Operational

Los Angeles, California,
FarmerÂ’s Market Area
Status: Operational

Detroit, Michigan,
Washington Blvd.
Status: Operational


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Author:  Ted Miles [ Wed May 15, 2002 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for double-decker tram info

I don't think that any of the US built double deck cars have been preserved. The car at OERM is Irish. The Wiliamette route is a Blackpool car.

I have read that there is a 3/4" gauge difference from standard with the double deck cars that they have at Seashore Trolley Museum. Makes them very hard to keep on the switches.

Please tell me more about what they are running in Los Angeles Farmers Market.



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Author:  O.Anderson [ Wed May 15, 2002 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for double-decker tram info

I believe Trolleyville USA (the Gerald Brookins museum) in Cuyahoga Falls OH had a meter gauge double decker.

Author:  Timothy Davis [ Wed May 15, 2002 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for double-decker tram info

> Please tell me more about what they are
> running in Los Angeles Farmers Market.

It's a standard gauge, battery-powered, open-topped, double-decker trolley. A short article and picture can be found on the Light Rail Transit Association website. If I did this right, the link below should take you to that article. If not it's www.lrta.org/news/news0216.html.



http://www.lrta.org/news/news0216.html
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Author:  Timothy Davis [ Wed May 15, 2002 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for double-decker tram info

> I believe Trolleyville USA (the Gerald
> Brookins museum) in Cuyahoga Falls OH had a
> meter gauge double decker.

Trolleyville USA traded their double-decker, #147, to Blackpool, England for a single-deck, open-top, "boat" car, #606. Pictures of the refurbished #147, operating on the streets of Fleetwood, and a picture of #606 can be seen on the Flyde Tramway Society website at www.tramway.com/fts/. I think that overall, this is a great website with links to other interesting websites. It is more than worthy of your time.


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Author:  Brian Norden [ Thu May 16, 2002 12:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Looking for double-decker tram info

Here is some more information:

The Oregon Electric Railway Historical has a Hong Kong, 36"-gauge, double decker that they got from a failed commercial deal. I seem to recall that the car does not have motors.

I also understand that the car running at Farmer's Market in Los Angeles was designed by some engineers that once worked for the Disney organization. Very interesting looking, battery powered, and uses computer based controls.

Brian Norden

ATSF #98 at Orange Empire
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