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Author:  Ron Goldfeder [ Wed May 29, 2002 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Museum of Transportation Trolley Loop Progress

You can see the progress we have made getting this loop installed at the link. Our recently recieved ALCO RS-1 is now running and will be avaialble to operate on special events.

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Author:  Phil Mulligan [ Thu May 30, 2002 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Museum of Transportation Trolley Loop Progress

Ron - how's the DL&W 4-4-0 progressing? Also, your site notes for this engine the fireman has only a gauge cock and the engineer has the only water glass - does the engineer's cab also have both injectors?

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Author:  Ron Goldfeder [ Fri May 31, 2002 11:00 pm ]
Post subject:  The Camelback

The Camelback project is going well. The new leaf springs are in the lead truck and it is back in place. This allowed the pilot to be reattached and the loco is starting to look better. The tender lettering is being applied and I hope to have new photos and an updated report on the site soon. I'll post something when it is available. As for the injectors there are two, with one under the control of each engineman. If I remember correctly there is one in front of the fireman's cab on the left side (?) and the engineer's is on the right side, but I'll have to take a look and see how well I can remember without photos in front of me.


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Author:  John J. Blair [ Sat Jun 01, 2002 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Whither NYC 2933

Has anything been done for NYC 4-8-2 2933?


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Author:  Ron Goldfeder [ Sat Jun 01, 2002 2:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Whither NYC 2933

This loco was repainted a few years ago and work started this week to connect the track it sits on so everything there can be removed and the track rebuilt. This area is made of landfill and the ground under the Mohawk is subsiding. An Army Reserve unit was busy assembling a track connection today (training for them, help for us) and a lot of other items such as the Aerotrain were moved onto a newly rebuilt and extended track nearby to make room for the contents of the track, including the Mohawk, Bi-Polar, NYC S-Motor, Illinois Terminal Class B, B&O #50 and a Propane burning loco. Other than cosmetic work there are no plans to restore any of our large steamers for operation at this time.

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Author:  L Beckman [ Sun Jun 02, 2002 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Whither NYC 2933

> This loco was repainted a few years ago and
> work started this week to connect the track
> it sits on so everything there can be
> removed and the track rebuilt. This area is
> made of landfill and the ground under the
> Mohawk is subsiding. An Army Reserve unit
> was busy assembling a track connection today
> (training for them, help for us) and a lot
> of other items such as the Aerotrain were
> moved onto a newly rebuilt and extended
> track nearby to make room for the contents
> of the track, including the Mohawk,
> Bi-Polar, NYC S-Motor, Illinois Terminal
> Class B, B&O #50 and a Propane burning
> loco. Other than cosmetic work there are no
> plans to restore any of our large steamers
> for operation at this time.

Ron:

Interesting that you said "large steamers." Some time ago (after SLSF 4-8-2 #1522 was restored to service), there were reports that the "next project" at MofT was to be the MKT 4-4-0. I even seem to recall that there was a search going on for the "correct" headlight. The locomotive, although originally built in 1892, was given a new boiler in the 1920's during a rebuilding by the KATY making it, at least nominally, a "modern" locomotive. Plus its small size would have made it a good candidate for museum on-the-property operation. What has happened to this project? Is it just on "hold" or has it been officialy cancelled? Thanks for any info you can furnish.

Les

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Author:  Richard [ Sun Jun 02, 2002 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Whither NYC 2933

Other than cosmetic work there are no
> plans to restore any of our large steamers
> for operation at this time.

Supposition: Suppose a well -funded group of NYC enthusiasts came along, and here I'm talking about the money being in hand - $1 million, not needing to be subscribed, but ready to go. Would the Museum entertain leasing or lending the mountain for restoration?


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Author:  Greg Scholl [ Sun Jun 02, 2002 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Whither NYC 2933

> Other than cosmetic work there are no

> Supposition: Suppose a well -funded group of
> NYC enthusiasts came along, and here I'm
> talking about the money being in hand - $1
> million, not needing to be subscribed, but
> ready to go. Would the Museum entertain
> leasing or lending the mountain for
> restoration?

Boy that would be nice!!!
Also noted the images on the web site, and we forget how much nice stuff is preserved there. I think we have shots of the Y6 going through Batavia en route to St. Louis.

That NKP Hudson sure looks sharp also!
Greg Scholl


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Author:  David Farlow [ Sun Jun 02, 2002 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Whither NYC 2933

> Supposition: Suppose a well -funded group of
> NYC enthusiasts came along, and here I'm
> talking about the money being in hand - $1
> million, not needing to be subscribed, but
> ready to go. Would the Museum entertain
> leasing or lending the mountain for
> restoration?

I think that you'd have a much easier time making this proposal work if you were to ask the NYC Museum in Elkart with Mohawk 3001. The key is that so far this of proposal never really materializes beyond the talking stage.

David Farlow

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Author:  Ron Goldfeder [ Sun Jun 02, 2002 4:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Whither NYC 2933 & MKT #311

The MKT work never got beyond the exploritory stage in the 80s and as this is before my time at MOT I can't tell you more than that. I can say that even though it is a 4-4-0 it is not a very small loco compared to our very limited track space and layout. As for the 4-8-2 I would suggest anyone with such funding send a proposal to the museum on the letterhead of the organization, not an individual. This would be run past the collections committee for a decision, but it needs to be serious, able to give a precise description of its legal status, funding and be willing to put up a substantial amount in escrow and accept an independent audit before any agreement would be considered. Talk and pipe dreams only result in dismantled locos like the one in Elkhart which may hold the record for length of rebuild with (?) to show for it. And is there is a place willing to run it, and make a binding committment?


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Author:  Ron Goldfeder [ Tue Jun 04, 2002 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Camelback

It turns out that my memory was only partly correct. This loco has two injectors, both controlled by the engineer and located in front of his cab. It is a double injector, with two of them cast as one single unit back to back. Each leads to its own check valve and has a seperate control. You can see it and the two pipes to the check valves in the photo at the link. The fireman has none.

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