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| Author: | Trevor Heath [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Project 6029 update |
http://blog.project6029.com/ |
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| Author: | whodom [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
Thanks for posting the update. Interesting that the Aussies are proceeding right ahead with restoring one of their "Big Boys" while everyone here except die-hard foamers scoffs at the notion of us doing the same. ;-) |
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| Author: | Dave [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
In all fairness, Hugh, they have someplace to put theirs to use. dave |
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| Author: | whodom [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
Good point, and since a Garratt goes around curves considerably more easily than a Mallet type articulated, that probably means it can operate on much more contemporary track in Australia (relatively speaking) than a Big Boy could in the U.S. |
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| Author: | Trevor Heath [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
Did anyone else notice that the third set of drivers appear to have blind flanges? Loco is expected to steam this year but not run until the (OZ) winter of 2014 TH |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
Also to be fair, for standard gauge they're approximately half the weight of a Big Boy, and less than half the tractive effort (59-63,000 lbs.). But I'll still want to see a spectacle match, if one could ever be arranged..... |
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| Author: | Trevor Heath [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
to such a hypothetical match of existing and operating locomotives, I'd want to bring the East African 59 class Garratt 5918 83,000 lbs and on the meter gauge. |
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| Author: | G. W. Laepple [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
Just in case you were wondering what an Australian Standard Garratt like 6029 sounds like, here are two of 'em doubleheaded, down on their knees on a coalie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1EWpCQP7eE |
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| Author: | whodom [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
^ THAT was pretty damn impressive. |
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| Author: | J3a-614 [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
Those Garratts are impressive indeed! And the photography so reminds me, for some reason, of something O. Winston Link would do! And what about those American looking hoppers full of coal? Arrrgh, I live in the wrong time. . . |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
G. W. Laepple wrote: Just in case you were wondering what an Australian Standard Garratt like 6029 sounds like, here are two of 'em doubleheaded, down on their knees on a coalie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1EWpCQP7eE Best damn "train porn" (as my wife jokingly calls it) since that high-speed pacing run of the SAR Red Devil..... |
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| Author: | G. W. Laepple [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
Wait -- there's more. Check out the articulation as they go through the crossover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgijJgqXA40 And this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgijJgqXA40 |
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| Author: | superheater [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
At one time Baldwin considered making Garratts for domestic U.S use, not sure why they didn't pursue the idea further (guess: turntable lengths); but watching them in action on these videos, makes me consider the failure to do so a rather distinct loss. |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
superheater wrote: At one time Baldwin considered making Garratts for domestic U.S use, not sure why they didn't pursue the idea further (guess: turntable lengths); but watching them in action on these videos, makes me consider the failure to do so a rather distinct loss. Um, you don't NEED turntables for Beyer-Garratts. Unless you're on a tunnel-filled line that warranted cab-forwards--and how many railroads had THOSE? |
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| Author: | Dave [ Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Project 6029 update |
I think it has to do with boiler maintenance. removing tubes or elements requires separating the front engine and tank. Mallets - no problem. dave |
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