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| Author: | Kelly Anderson [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What's Wrong With This Photo |
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| Author: | BML1149 [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
I see a couple of things wrong. First, there are no drive belts going from the jack shaft to the drive sheaves. Also, the cross rail is set too low for the part. I had a planer a lot like this one once. Leverett Fernald |
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| Author: | Howard P. [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
Aside from the total lack of PPE, the place is e-m-p-t-y........ And considering how huge Eddystone was, no wonder BLW was in trouble. Howard P. |
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| Author: | ns2110 [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:44 pm ] |
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1937 seems pretty late to not have superheaters too. Could that be an export locomotive? |
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| Author: | Howard P. [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
If you're referring to the smokebox/boiler shots, that's probably an SP cab-forward; note the heavy sliding pad mounted under the boiler bottom for the "front" engine frame. The proliferation of 3 1/2" Type E superheater flues make it look like the engine is saturated, but there's probably a hundred (or less) 2" tubes mixed in around the edges. Howard P. |
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| Author: | alzubal [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
Cleanest shop I have ever seen. Al |
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| Author: | mldeets [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
Fascinating photos. Thanks for posting the link! They have trouble with some of the captions not matching the correct photo. Spelling is also optional. |
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| Author: | joe6167 [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
Note that the photographer was Lewis Hine. |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
alzubal wrote: Cleanest shop I have ever seen. Al The cleanliness of the shop doesn't surprise me. If the photos were taken for publicity purposes (which is what I suspect), then cleaning the shop would have made perfect sense. Les |
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| Author: | NYCRRson [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
Looks like a very small 0-4-0 (only two axle openings), Maybe narrow gauge (hard to tell from only the frame length). That Planer does seem to be missing some belts (main drive belt ?). Maybe a quick; "set something up on a machine so we look like we are doing something useful" photo ? It sure looks awful clean in that building, like the building was just put up ? Sure seems like it's not a real machining setup, looks way too "floppy" to take any actual chips off a real piece of metal ? "floppy" is an offical machine shop term, when the tool hits the metal and the metal says "are you kidding me", that's "floppy". But hey, just my two cents worth, maybe they wanted an "action" photo and all they had laying around was an old 0-4-0 frame from a canceled order ? Cheers, Kevin. |
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| Author: | Wowak [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
The part isn't in any way secured to the feed table. |
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| Author: | Jim Baker [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
In regard to the shop looking so clean, that may have been SOP when a photographer was around for publicity photos. A generation earlier, 1912-1916, my grandfather had a machine shop in San Diego, where he made gasoline engines used primarily in fishing boats. I have several photos of the shop. Most of them are what you'd expect: crap laying around, not too orderly. But one, probably for an ad, had a crankshaft, pistons, and rods neatly displayed on a sterile floor, with three machinists looking like they are posed at their machines. |
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| Author: | alzubal [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:57 am ] |
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Not only clean but in most shops the machines are much closer to gether. looks like a brand new building there is no dirt anyware and not a lot of people workink. |
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| Author: | David H. Hamley [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
The frame is for a Baldwin/Westinghouse mine loco. |
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| Author: | softwerkslex [ Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What's Wrong With This Photo |
If you read the history of Baldwin, the construction of Eddystone was a huge mistake. It was completed right after the demand for locomotives dropped off. Dropped off not just because of economic decline, but because of technological plateau. There was no compelling sales argument to sell more locomotives to Baldwin's majority (by revenue) customers: small and medium size roads. Their existing twenty year old engines worked just fine. World War II saved Baldwin and the Eddystone investment. My point relative to these photos: the empty look is probably accurate. |
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