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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
Though you may have to go overseas to find it: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... dings.html Quote: To his colleagues Kristian Holmes was a respectable father of two, dedicated to his £60,000-a-year job as a surveyor. But the bespectacled office worker was living a double life as one of Britain’s most prolific graffiti vandals. Yesterday he waved goodbye to his family as he was jailed for three-and-a-half years for a trail of destruction that even included a steam train run by volunteers. Holmes, 32, caused damage estimated at more than £250,000 and forced scores of trains out of service by defacing carriages. One of his most high-profile victims was the Bluebell Railway, the steam-powered heritage line in Sussex. More at the link. |
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| Author: | mspetersen [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
Too made more of these aren't caught. Its a total lack of disregard for private property and most of the time their "art" sucks as well. Good riddance. Worst part of it is the British Govt will probably be picking up the tab to support the rest of his family. |
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| Author: | buzz_morris [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
I’m quite sure a city could not do this today without getting sued, but when I was a kid under age vandals were made to scrub the sidewalk around the city hall in Milwaukee. |
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| Author: | p51 [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
I like that he's referred to as what he is; a vandal. I get so sick of people in the US creferring to these vandals as 'street artists.' One used to argue the point with me all the time... until hisd house got tagged one day. It's amazing how it stops being art when your house is painted, huh? |
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| Author: | Mike Manson [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
A few years ago in Petaluma we were treated to the sight of three convicted taggers scrubbing graffiti off of brick walls across the street from our work yard. The taggers were lucky they were not caught in Singapore, where caning is the penalty. Mike Manson NWPRRHS |
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| Author: | robertmacdowell [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
One "wives tale" about graffiti artists is that they're like locusts; catch one and there's 100 more, so there's no point hunting them down. BART tried anyway, and discovered the wives tale is false. The vast majority of graffiti comes from a shockingly small number of actors So yes, catching one is a pretty big payoff. |
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| Author: | Rick Rowlands [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
This is what Carrie Furnaces NHL is doing with regards to graffiti found on the historic structures: http://www.riversofsteel.com/things-to- ... -art-tour/ Not so sure that I agree that the graffiti that I've been battling for the past couple of years should be legitimized as art as this program wants to do. It is inherently destructive and not at all compatible with the historic significance of the blast furnace plant in my opinion. |
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| Author: | 484Mike [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
Any spraying which is done against the will lof the owner is criminal, and "art" is surely not to defined by the vandals. AFAIK, the Siwss railway is putting vandalized cars out of service immediately to be cleaned, not to give the vandals andy pride in seeing their "work" in public. The German railway now plans to use drones with thermographic cameras to get the criminals. Parts of the virtual discussions about that are obviously dominated by those who are on the vandals' side, thinking about how to build "anti-drone-devices". Yet, as most of those internet heroes are not capable of anything else (I remember the underwear remark here..), I am convinced the German drone will be quite successful. Yet I doubt any museum RR has the means to fully observe its outside property. This is what makes the UK story so worthwile spreading. Michael |
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| Author: | Bob Hall [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
We had a graffiti problem at the Canberra Railway Museum a few years back. We erected signs (illuminated at night by solar lights) that pointed out that we were a volunteer museum and not part of "the railways", that all graffiti was removed within hours of application and that nothing left the yard with graffiti on it. The final sentence, in larger lettering was "Why bother?" I'm pleased to say it was very successful. The trick is to make these cretins realise that their efforts aren't going to be worth it if it has a life span of hours. Having said that, we did arrange early morning inspections of the yard and had a phone list of those quickly available to come and remove the graffiti. They tried us out once after the signs went up and we practised what we preached. After that, the problem went elsewhere. Cheers, Bob |
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| Author: | p51 [ Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
Good on ya, Bob! |
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| Author: | tomgears [ Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
Shooting vandals should be an option. |
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| Author: | robertmacdowell [ Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sometimes There Is Justice: Graffiti Edition |
484Mike wrote: AFAIK, the Siwss railway is putting vandalized cars out of service immediately to be cleaned, not to give the vandals andy pride in seeing their "work" in public. NYC has been doing that for 20 years. Quote: The German railway now plans to use drones with thermographic cameras to get the criminals. Parts of the virtual discussions about that are obviously dominated by those who are on the vandals' side, thinking about how to build "anti-drone-devices". Well you got two choices, find a way to not emit body heat (one way would be tomgear's suggestion) or else confuse the drones with so many sources of body heat that it can't find you... make the yard the preferred hangout for about 500 feral Mastiffs, St. Bernards and Great Danes... every night drop about 10 bags of dog food from a low flying airplane. Should work. |
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