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 Post subject: Never Used Loco in Museum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:37 am 

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Brand-new HXN-3 (EMD license) on display at Shenyung Museum. No internal components installed-used for development of shop drawings.

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 Post subject: Re: Never Used Loco in Museum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:42 pm 

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in model railroad terms...its a dummy...


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 Post subject: Re: Never Used Loco in Museum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:13 pm 

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There are units which had incredibly short service lives before going to museums. Muni 0305 comes to mind, it's a line car that did not work out on Muni and was retired within days.


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 Post subject: Re: Never Used Loco in Museum
PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:29 pm 

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NH0401 wrote:
Brand-new HXN-3 (EMD license) on display at Shenyung Museum. No internal components installed-used for development of shop drawings.

Dave


OK, I'm not doubting you're correct, but what the heck? Used for development of shop drawings?!? In this era of computers and CAD?

First of all, what did they use to make this one if they didn't have shop drawings? Then once they had it built, they measured it all and created "as built" drawings? Wow...


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 Post subject: Re: Never Used Loco in Museum
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:29 am 

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Ha, ha, ha. Reminds me of a story from the early days of outsourcing to Japan, told to me by Bob Bruneau of IRM, who worked as a professional model maker.

It seems due to the language differences, it was very difficult to get aesthetic concepts across... so, if Sears wanted say, a clock radio, the shop where Bob worked would be commissioned to build a non-functional model... A plexiglass box with all the fake wood grain and chrome applied, complete with knobs and a fake tuning dial, which was then boxed up and sent off to japan with the instruction, "make it look like this."

Looks like EMD just did it on a bigger scale.

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 Post subject: Re: Never Used Loco in Museum
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:58 am 

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Although rare, this is not unique.

Over on NGDF, "Hesston Steam Museum acquired in 1987, a 1941 built CKD 0-4-0-T 600mm gauge engine from Germany. It showed chalk markings in the boiler and firebox, so apparently was never fired up. It was built during WW2 for a road building firm. Their autobahn building project was cancelled, and the locomotive was stored near Winsen (SE of Hamburg) where it sat from 1942 to 1969. It was purchased and exported for a proposed excursion near Novato, Ca which never came to pass. It was stored for another 17 years, unused until we bought it.. It was our regular service engine for many years, now has been reflued and driver tires turned due to to mainly right hand turns. "

Also the "When Glover Machine Shop quit manufacturing locomotives c1929-1930, There were three locos in the shops.

They were there when the Glover operation moved to South GA in the 1990's (IIRC).

One is displayed in a parking lot near the W&A in Marietta - it was restored. This 2-6-0 was a return from a buyer to sell on spec (?)

There were two 0-4-0ST's in the shop also. One is 36" gauge which I think the buyer folded before paying for it. The other was something like 38" (not meter) gauge IIRC. It was built on spec and was never completed.

Both are now in the The Southern Museum (Formerly advertised as The Southern Museum of Civil War and Locomotive History). They part of "a reproduction of the locomotive assembly line from the Glover Machine Works."

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:04 pm 

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I'm not sure just what the circumstances prompted the return of the Colburn Brothers 3 foot 2-6-0 to Glovers. The 40" Splint Jellico Coal Co. 0-4-0T was in used for 3 months and then repossessed from Lafolette, TN. I recall reading in the file about how a team of mules was used to haul the teakettle down to the depot from the mine and other interesting glimpses into the reality of repossession back in the day.....C/N 91419 was the 3 foot 0-4-0T that was supposedly never finished or sold....but I recall something about it being damaged in a wreck during shipping, or some sort of problem which resulted in its return to Marietta. It has been a very long time since I was working at Glovers and the details are fading.

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