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Author:  steaminfo [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190, previously owned by Scott Syman and located in Dunkirk, NY has been purchased by Age of Steam and is now located at their roundhouse in Sugarcreek, Ohio.
Author:  Finderskeepers [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
Sounds like she is worn out beyond worn out and 40 years of display hasn't helped her any either
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Author:  Finderskeepers [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
At one time she was a good looking little engine
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo390s.jpg
Author:  Emmo213 [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
Good for Jerry. Nothing against 1293 but I look forward to when/if he starts restoring some of his other engines.
Author:  Rob Gardner [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
Emmo, AOS is currently working on the boiler of M&NF 0-6-0 No.12.

Rob
Author:  Les Beckman [ Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
I'm curious as to whether the Age of Steam Roundhouse does a report on the condition of its locomotives. Something like what Steamtown did with its locomotive collection a number of years ago. So that when a locomotive like B&O 390/1190 is added to the roster, it is recorded as a candidate for cosmetic restoration only, or as a future restoration possibility. Just wondering.


Les
Author:  p51 [ Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
I've seen far worse to start off with:
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/onephoto.cfm?display=925
Author:  Mgoldman [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
p51 wrote:
I've seen far worse to start off with:
http://www.steamlocomotive.info/onephoto.cfm?display=925


That 0-6-0 probably is in much better shape then she looks - in fact, she doesn't look too bad at all. Just some pieces likely removed and stored.

Now - you wanna see a loco in bad shape, check out PRR 0-6-0 #60 in Hockessin, DE on a siding of the Wilmington and Western Railroad.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=285914

Interesting that there are two B&O switchers, didn't realize that. Call me nuts, I'd like to see one at the B&O RR Museum just to see more B&O at the B&O Museum.

/Mitch
Author:  Steamguy73 [ Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
What is the other one? Anyways, is the tender missing to this thing, or is it separated. Also, could someone post a picture of 1190 at Sugarcreek? Until about 5 mins ago, I had no idea this beautiful engine existed. That doesn't happen to me often!
Author:  TJ Sposato [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
The 1190 arrived at our shop on four separate truck loads in November. After some minor repairs to the running gear and frame, the boiler was remounted and the tender reconnected so we can make her mobile again. The engine has now been placed in the roundhouse. At this time we have no plans for 1190 other then protection, account of the work taking place on the other locomotives and shop machinery. She is a welcome addition to the collection, we are glad to have acquired her.
TimS.

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Author:  Steamguy73 [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
Cool engine, just missing some parts. JJJ will take good care of it
Author:  p51 [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
Steamguy73 wrote:
Cool engine, just missing some parts. JJJ will take good care of it
You can never tell from a simple photo, but from what little I can see, "Basket case" is hardly the phrase I would use for this 0-6-0, so far!
Author:  J3a-614 [ Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
p51 wrote:
Steamguy73 wrote:
Cool engine, just missing some parts. JJJ will take good care of it
You can never tell from a simple photo, but from what little I can see, "Basket case" is hardly the phrase I would use for this 0-6-0, so far!


I would concur. I saw the locomotive when it was in New Martinsville, W.Va. At that time there was more there--but what was missing then and is missing now is stuff that is "relatively" (note the quotes!) easy to replace, i.e, air compressor, injectors, and so on. All the unique or not so easily replaced stuff was still there, including main rods, the suspension system, and all of the Stephenson valve gear.

Speaking of the Stephenson gear, how many preserved locomotives, operational or not, have this configuration of Stephenson valve gear and inboard piston or spool valves? It was fairly common in new construction early in the 20th century, but I don't think it was a construction style that lasted very long. If my memory is right from looking at this locomotive, it also lacks the rocker arms common to Stephenson motion and slide valves on top of the cylinders.

Edit: Some other locomotives that used this inboard piston valve setup with Stephenson gear included C&NW R-1 4-6-0s (1385 and 444 are two survivors, and I think there is a third), C&NW 1015 (a 4-4-2 at St. Louis), and another 4-4-2 (a former NYC "Gibson girl" at that!) at the Henry Ford Museum.

http://www.thehenryford.org/exhibits/pi ... 0.jun.html

http://www.railroadmichigan.com/henryford1.jpg

And if you want to see a steam locomotive that looks really bad, check out the 1015:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPi ... x?id=71931

Now, as to our ex-B&O, ex-BR&P switcher, let's hope the surgeons at Sugar Creek find her boiler sound. . .
Author:  Steamguy73 [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
This engine needs to get all it's parts. Looks in good shape. I can see clearly why the tender was put into storage. No problem though, m&nf 12 (southern 1643) looked much worse when JJJ received it, and you can see she is clearly restore able.
Author:  mikefrommontana [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baltimore & Ohio RR 0-6-0 No. 1190
J3a-614 wrote:
p51 wrote:
Steamguy73 wrote:
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Speaking of the Stephenson gear, how many preserved locomotives, operational or not, have this configuration of Stephenson valve gear and inboard piston or spool valves? It was fairly common in new construction early in the 20th century, but I don't think it was a construction style that lasted very long. If my memory is right from looking at this locomotive, it also lacks the rocker arms common to Stephenson motion and slide valves on top of the cylinders.

Edit: Some other locomotives that used this inboard piston valve setup with Stephenson gea


There are four NP class S-4 4-6-0's in preservation that have this feature--this includes the 1364 which is nearing operation after restoration by the Yakima Valley Rail and Steam Museum in Toppenish Washinton.

Michael Seitz
Missoula MT
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