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 Post subject: New york Central Steam
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 3:16 pm 

There are very few engines that survived from this major Class 1 railroad. Two of them are 0-6-0
switchers built by ALCO around 1912.

NYC 6894 was last shown in Conrad as stored in the Hagerstown, Maryland roundhouse.

NYC 6721 was at Carrollyn Park in Dayton, Ohio for many years. It has now been moved to the Utica, New York Station for display.

Does anyone know anything recent about these locos? Is the asbestos gone? Is there a source that has recent photos? TM


ted_miles@nps.gov


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New york Central Steam
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 3:29 pm 

2 ex-NYC locos still exist deep in the Maine woods from the Eagle Lake logging operation.
A 4-6-0, and a 2-8-0.
Found this interesting page detailing a group's trek in to see the engines.

Engines at Eagle Lake
SJHussar@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New york Central Steam
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 6:37 pm 

> There are very few engines that survived
> from this major Class 1 railroad. Two of
> them are 0-6-0
> switchers built by ALCO around 1912.

> NYC 6894 was last shown in Conrad as stored
> in the Hagerstown, Maryland roundhouse.

> NYC 6721 was at Carrollyn Park in Dayton,
> Ohio for many years. It has now been moved
> to the Utica, New York Station for display.

> Does anyone know anything recent about these
> locos? Is the asbestos gone? Is there a
> source that has recent photos? TM
The 6894 is still in Hagerstown. She's not in very good shape but I know of two steam experts that have said she could return to steam. The roundhouse, however, is long gone. As for a photo, there was one posted on Trainorders recently.


sirterp@myactv.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New york Central Steam
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 7:13 pm 

> Here is a link to the photo of the Hagerstown loco that was on Trainorders.

NYC 0-6-0
fitzrr@pioneer.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New york Central Steam
PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2002 9:44 pm 

> There are very few engines that survived
> from this major Class 1 railroad. Two of
> them are 0-6-0
> switchers built by ALCO around 1912.

> NYC 6894 was last shown in Conrad as stored
> in the Hagerstown, Maryland roundhouse.

> NYC 6721 was at Carrollyn Park in Dayton,
> Ohio for many years. It has now been moved
> to the Utica, New York Station for display.

> Does anyone know anything recent about these
> locos? Is the asbestos gone? Is there a
> source that has recent photos? TM

Ted: It is my understanding that the 6894 was given to the Hagerstown Roundhouse Museum group by its owner who was connected with the NYC Historical Society. From the picture, it doesn't look like the 0-6-0 is in too bad of shape. Perhaps someone from the HRM group could tell us what their plans are for her.


midlandblb@cs.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New york Central Steam 6721
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 12:27 am 

Folks,

Thanks for showing the current status of the Hagerstown switcher. Now can anyone do the same for the engine 6721 in Utica?

Thanks for the other comments about other NYC engines they are in Conrad and are still in Maine or whereever since he published the book.

Now the is the matter of the New Haven, but I will save that for another day. Ted

ted_miles@nps.gov


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New york Central Steam 6721
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 4:10 am 

There are some action scenes of NYC 0-6-0 6784 in our video "New York Central Indiana Division Volume 1". The engine was in service at Cincinnati's Mill Creek Yard until steam died in 1957 and the scenes in the video were shot in 1956. There is another engine of the same class coming out of Sharonville Yard on Cincinnati's north side. These were good looking switchers.
(Hope this isn't spam)
-Jim Herron

http://www.herronrail.com
hrvideo@mindspring.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New york Central Steam 6721
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 1:45 pm 

If you want a real stretch for looking for former NYC steam then you can visit Oklahoma for the 2-8-0's that were sold to the KCM&O (Kansas City, Mexico, and Orient) in the early 20's that ended up as ATSF locos when the Santa Fe bought the KCM&O in the late 20's. Santa Fe was very generous to us when they retired their steam (we have northern #3768 here in Wichita) and several of those old "Orient Line" steam engines, while slightly "Santa Fe-ized" are still with us......

> Folks,

> Thanks for showing the current status of the
> Hagerstown switcher. Now can anyone do the
> same for the engine 6721 in Utica?

> Thanks for the other comments about other
> NYC engines they are in Conrad and are still
> in Maine or whereever since he published the
> book.

> Now the is the matter of the New Haven, but
> I will save that for another day. Ted


wichita_rails@msn.com


  
 
 Post subject: The Utica Engine
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2002 3:02 pm 

Hey All

Had the chance to see the Utica engine a few months ago when our company assumed dipatching for the Adirondak Scenic RR. The 0-6-0 is alive and well there. She is right by the station, fenced off right along the Station Platforms. Her cab entrance was boarded over I assume in an attempt to thwart any theivery. It appeared that all of the asbestos had been removed as well. Even though she is not under cover, she did look well cared for.

The Utica Station is quite the place these days, with Adirondak Scenic trains departing from platfor #3, the steamer and the children's museum right next door. Outside the children's museum is a six-axle ALCo road switcher, a Santa Fe streamlined diner and a PRR caboose, all well cared for.

I do have a picture of the NYC engine from around may, I'll have to dig it out.

Dave Crosby

bing@epix.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Utica Engine - Photos! *PIC*
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:45 am 

Links to pages with photos

http://marina.fortunecity.com/mainbrace/302/6721.html

http://www.nyow.org/members/KH15.JPG

The Photo linked to is message is from:

http://parkengines.railfan.net/NY/content.shtml

Image
rrhistorian@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: New York Central 2-8-0 (AT&SF)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:46 am 

> If you want a real stretch for looking for
> former NYC steam then you can visit Oklahoma
> for the 2-8-0's that were sold to the
> KCM&O (Kansas City, Mexico, and Orient)
> in the early 20's that ended up as ATSF
> locos when the Santa Fe bought the KCM&O
> in the late 20's. Santa Fe was very generous
> to us when they retired their steam (we have
> northern #3768 here in Wichita) and several
> of those old "Orient Line" steam
> engines, while slightly "Santa
> Fe-ized" are still with us......

For the record, of the surviving ex-KCM&O 2-8-0's, only Santa Fe #2522 (on display in Fairview, Oklahoma) is a former New York Central engine (NYC #2976.) The others were originally built for the "Orient." The KCM&O DID purchase a number of these Consolidations from the Central but only #2976 (2522) was preserved. Anyone know the locomotives condition today?

midlandblb@cs.com


  
 
 Post subject: P&LE 4-6-0 #9153 *PIC*
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2002 11:32 am 

While looking at The New York Central System Historical Society surviving steam list, I was surprised by the following:

P&LE #9153 F-102 4-6-0 Schen. 1896 Delson QUE

http://www.nycshs.org/nyclocos.html

It is presently in the collection of the Canadian Railway Museum in Delson, QC. Their website states:

"Originally built for the Pittsburgh & Lake Erie, Maritime Railway #5 represents an unmodified late 19th century North American locomotive with flat slide valves. It was used on the construction of the National Transcontinental Railway, Canada's third transcontinental railway. The tender is not the original; the railways swapped tenders fairly often."

http://www.exporail.org/collection/coll ... ur_ang.htm

This has many historic photos - It is also where the linked photo of the locomotive in its current state originated from:

http://www.geocities.com/dblegere/railway.html



Image
rrhistorian@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: The Utica Engine - Photos!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2002 11:49 am 

Thanks a bunch! That is just what I was looking for. Good to see the asbestos gone and lots of new paint.

Can't quite tell if that is New York Central on the side but, I hope so.

Ted Miles

ted_miles@nps.gov


  
 
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