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Author:	John T [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:41 pm ]
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I was not trying to imply that the people at Snoqualmie are bad or careless. This is just a record of what has been removed from the collection. Locomotive Cranes Bucyrus Foundry & Mfg. Co. C/N 1332 01-12-1911 40-R steam shovel Canadian Collieries (Dunsmuir), Ltd. Union Bay, BC (converted to crane) Charley Morrow Snoqualmie, WA 1960 Moved to Snoqualmie, WA 04-22-61 Petitjean Bros. Mill Co. Fall City, WA (here 1984) Gerry Petitjean Rice, WA Industrial Works C/N 1038 1903 15 tons Steam 4-wheel Unknown first owner Northwest Cedar Lbr Co. Everett, WA Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1968 Northwest Ry. Museum Snoqualmie, WA 09-99 Pono Ranch & Le Pont Café Seattle, WA 12-2012 Browning 10 tons Steam (converted to Gas) 4-wheel Unknown first owner Gauthier Bros. Mill (Green River Lbr. Co.) Black Diamond, WA Newman Mallett Snoqualmie, WA 1966 (moved here 1969) Dick Simpson Snoqualmie, WA 1996 Stored on privet property Snoqualmie, WA American Hoist & Derrick C/N 1226 1924 30 ton Steam Simpson Logging Co. Shelton, WA (side rod trucks) (delivered 07-24) Simpson Tbr. Co. McCleary, WA 1959 Puget Sound Ry Historical Assn. 1970 (stored at Shelton) Pete Replinger Shelton, WA 1979 Scrapped 1990 Ohio C/N 3629 03-19-24 20 tons Steam Great Lakes Foundry Co. Port Huron, MI Republic Scrap Iron & Metal Co. Detroit, MI 1936 Empire Iron & Metal Co. Detroit, MI 1940 Transportation Corps Ft. Lewis, WA 1944 Northwest Steel Rolling Mills Seattle, WA 1946 J. H. Baxter (Baxter Pole Co.) Renton (Quendall), WA Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA (never moved) 1969 Scrapped 1969-71, Boiler to Petitjean Brothers in 1972. By 1984 it was in use at the Petitjean Brothers Mill Co. at Fall City, WA It is now at Matt Rauch’s mill near Deming, WA. Streetcar & Interurban #20 Streetcar steel J. G. Brill Co. 1930 Yakima Valley Transportation Co. #20 Yakima, WA Portland Traction Co. #4008 1948 R. Martin Snoqualmie, WA 1959 Stored on privet property Snoqualmie, WA #21 Streetcar steel J. G. Brill Co. 1930 Yakima Valley Transportation Co. #21 Yakima, WA Portland Traction Co. #4009 1948 Bob Hively Snoqualmie, WA 1959 Yakima Interurban Lines Assn. #21 (leased) 1989 Donated to YILA after Hively’s death in 1993. Yakima Valley Trolleys Yakima, WA 2001 #22 Streetcar steel J. G. Brill Co. 1930 Yakima Valley Transportation Co. #22 Yakima, WA Portland Traction Co. #4010 1948 Bob Hively Snoqualmie, WA 1959 Yakima Interurban Lines Assn. #22 (leased) 1989 Donated to YILA after Hively’s death in 1993. Yakima Valley Trolleys Yakima, WA 2001 #55 Coach wood Niles Car Co. 1910 Seattle-Everett Traction Co. #55 Pacific Northwest Traction #55 1912 North Coast Transportation Co. #55 1930 Old 55 Diner (body only) Everett, WA 1939 Puget Sound Ry Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1964 Used as station and gift shop. Donated to the City of Lynnwood, WA 1993 Cosmetically restored and placed on display at Heritage Park. #60 Observation wood Niles Car Co. 1907 Spokane & Inland Empire Ry #360 “Kootenai” Pacific Northwest Traction #60 1919 North Coast Transportation Co. #60 1930 Roadside diner (body only) between Bellingham & Ferndale, WA 1932 B. Cole Snoqualmie, WA 1970 Stored on privet property Snoqualmie, WA #S-103 Snow Plow wood BCER 1911 British Columbia Electric Ry #952 Snow plow added 1937 British Columbia Electric Ry #S-103 Vancouver, BC 1951 Cole, Martin & Thrash Snoqualmie, WA 1966 $1200 Moved to Snoqualmie 03-66 Dispassion unknown #210 Streetcar (body only) AC&F 1919? Seattle Electric Ry. Seattle Municipal Ry #210 1921 Body sold 1940 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1988 Metro Employee Vehicle Assn. Seattle, WA #1058 Line Car wood 44’ Niles Car Co. 1903 Jersey City Traction Co. Jersey City, NJ Oregon Water Power Co. #58 Portland, OR 1905? Portland Ry, Light & Power #1058 1906 Converted to line car 1929 Portland Electric Power Co. #1058 1932 Portland Traction Co. #1058 1944 Cole, Cole & Rusch Seattle, WA 1959 Moved to Snoqualmie, WA 1959 Stored on privet property Snoqualmie, WA #1207 Coach wood 50’ BCER 1905 British Columbia Electric Ry “Steveston”>#1207 Vancouver, BC Thrash & Cole Seattle, WA 1958 Moved to Snoqualmie British Columbia Transportation Authority (leased) Vancouver, BC 1989 #4003 Streetcar steel Kuhlman Car Co. 1925 Indiana Public Service Co. #64 Indianapolis, IN Portland Electric Power Co. #4003 Portland, OR 1940 Portland Traction #4003 1944 Bob Hively Snoqualmie, WA 1959 Yakima Interurban Lines Assn. (leased) 1989 Donated to YILA after Hively’s death in 1993. Illinois Railway Museum Union, IL 1993 Cabooses no# wood Northern Pacific Ry Weyerhaeuser Co. Enumclaw, WA 1965? (At some point homemade bay windows were applied.) (wrecked 1974) City of Snoqualmie, WA 1975 Puget Sound Ry Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA Black Diamond Historical Society Black Diamond, WA (body replaced to Pacific Car & Foundry plans) #94 wood 39’ Milwaukee Road shops 1910+ Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul RR #? Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & pacific RR #? 1927 Puget Sound & Baker River RR #101>94 Hamilton, WA 1937 Puget Sound Ry Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1960 Cole Family 1965 Stored on privet property Snoqualmie, WA #100 wood 30’ (body only) Clear Lake Lbr. Co. 1915 Puget Sound & Cascade RR #100 Clear Lake, WA Boyd’s Ranch 1938+ (used as shed) Charley Morrow Seattle, WA 1960 Moved to Snoqualmie, WA 1960 Scrapped #03007 wood 25’ converted to bunk car GN St. Cloud shop 1923 Great Northern #X-522 Converted to bunk car #03007 1947 Burlington Northern #03007 1970 W. Taubeneck & others Snoqualmie, WA 1975 Sold and removed to Mercer Island, WA. 1988 #14222 wood 36’ Chicago Burlington & Quincy RR #14222 Burlington Northern #14222 Wrecked 1971 B, G & R Cole, Martin & Laing Snoqualmie, WA 1971 Cut down to belt rail for passenger use. Never used Body removed 1986 #204287 wood 42’ “drovers caboose” Northern Pacific RR #? Box car? Northern Pacific RR #? Drovers Caboose Northern Pacific RR #204287 Crew Kitchen Car R. Cole & G. Cole Snoqualmie, WA 1969 Stored on privet property Snoqualmie, WA Freight Cars #61 Flat Car 36’ wood Canadian Collieries (Dunsmuir), Ltd. #61 Union Bay, BC Charley Morrow Snoqualmie, WA 1960 Wrecked in transit, eventually rotted away. #62 Flat Car 36’ wood 1958 (trucks etc. from old car) Canadian Collieries (Dunsmuir), Ltd. #62 Union Bay, BC Charley Morrow Snoqualmie, WA 1960 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1967 (used as passenger car) Rotted away, metal parts salvaged. #207 Flat Car steel 40’ Pressed Steel Car Co. original owner unknown Skagit River Ry #207 Rockport, WA Dulien Steel Products (D) Seattle, WA 1954 Simpson-Lee Paper Co. #207 Everett, WA Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1971 Scrapped #505 Hopper Car wood 30 ton capacity (built in 1950s trucks etc. from old car) Canadian Collieries (Dunsmuir), Ltd. #505 Union Bay, BC Maes, Thrash, Mallett & Martin Snoqualmie, WA 1960 Jack Boyken Snoqualmie, WA Burned by vandals, metal parts stored on privet property, Snoqualmie, WA. #1000 Box Car wood 37’ (body only) Unknown first owner US Navy #1000 Bremerton, WA Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1961 Scrapped #2056 Tank Car steel GATX 1942 Shell Chemical #2056 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA Scrapped #70400 Refrigerator steel PC&F 1953 Western Fruit Express #70400 Alaska Lumber & Pulp Co. #70400 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA Yakima Valley Trolleys Yakima, WA #? Box Car wood Pacific Northwest Traction North Coast Transportation Co. 1930 Puget Sound & Cascade RR 1932 Mount Vernon Terminal Ry 1939 Bob Hively (to be moved to Snoqualmie) 1971 Burned at Mount Vernon, WA 1977 #? Box Car wood Northern Pacific RR Puget Sound & Cascade RR Mount Vernon Terminal Ry 1939 Bob Hively (to be moved to Snoqualmie) 1971 Burned at Mount Vernon, WA 1977 #? Highlead Unit Car steel 41’ Pacific Car & Foundry This car was donated to the PSRHA by a Seattle tugboat company. The car body was stored at General Construction Co. in Seattle and the trucks were moved to Snoqualmie. At some point General Construction scrapped the car. Passenger Cars #11 Business Car 80’ wood 1893 Canadian Pacific RR “Enoshima” sleeper Converted to business car “Nova Scotia” CP Angus Shops 1913 Name changed to “Manitoba” 1918 CPR #11 1929 Maynard Laing Snoqualmie, WA 1964 R. C. Clark. Jr. Snoqualmie, WA 1974 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1986 Scrapped #X-127 Kitchen Car 59’ wood Pullman Car Co. 1883 Northern Pacific Ry #? (possibly as a pay car) Converted to NP business car #97 1884 to #2 1888 NP #1905 1939 Converted to kitchen car #X-127 at NP South Tacoma Shop 1943 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1968 Northwest Railway Museum Snoqualmie, Wa 1999 Trucks to Chapel Car #5 “Messenger of Peace” 2012, rest to be scrapped #273 Combine steel Barney & Smith 1915 Spokane Portland & Seattle Ry #273 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA Astoria Railroad Preservation Assn. Astoria, WA #518 Day Coach Pullman Car Co. 1946 Northern Pacific #518 Burlington Northern #518 Converted to bunk car # 1971 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA Scrapped Clinton Sleeper 62’ steel American Car & Foundry 1924 Interstate Public Service Co. #167 “Scottsburg” Indianapolis, IN Indiana RR System #167 Indianapolis, IN 1930 Pacific Great Eastern RR “Clinton” 1936 Maynard Laing Snoqualmie, WA 1964 West Coast Railway Assn. Squamish, BC 1994 Spokane Business Car 77’ steel/wood Spokane International Ry “Spokane” H. W. McCurdy 1955 (badly damaged 1960) Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1968 Body dismantled 1986 Frame scrapped #627 Coach steel 1910 Northern Pacific RR #627 Frank Culp 1965 Moved to Snoqualmie, WA Lake Whatcom Ry (tourist) Wickersham, WA 1972 #634 Coach steel 1912 Northern Pacific RR #634 Frank Culp 1965 Moved to Snoqualmie, WA Lake Whatcom Ry (tourist) Wickersham, WA 1972 Speeders #? 4-wheel Kalamazoo 12 man Pacific Telephone & Telegraph Co. Auburn, WA Richard Thrash Snoqualmie, WA 1961 Puget Sound Ry. Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 1977 Scrapped Steam Donkeys Washington Iron Works C/N 3502 10x12 3 drum Duplex Loader 01-02-23 Northwestern Lumber Co. Hoquiam, WA (still here 1934) West Fork Logging Co. Mineral, WA St. Regies Paper Co. Mineral, WA 1943 St. Regies Paper Co. North Bend, WA (used on reload until 1960) Puget Sound Ry Hist. Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 09-21-61 (never here) Western Forest Industries Museum-Camp 6 Tacoma, WA 05-19-65 Jack Rogers Ashford, WA 08-92 Jack Anderson Ashford, WA 1997 Chris Baldo Willits, CA 12-97 Puget Sound Iron & Steel Works 10x15 4 drum (pre-1907) First owner unknown Bale Logging Co. Hoquiam, WA (used on log dump about 1924-36) Kyker Brothers Log. Co. Hoquiam, WA (used on log dump 1936-38) Western Machinery Exchange (D) Hoquiam, WA (has boiler from WIW C/N 3571 added by WME in 1940) Port of Willapa Harbor South Bend, WA (used on log reload 1940-60) Western Forest Industries Museum Tacoma, WA (never moved) Puget Sound Ry Historical Assn. Snoqualmie, WA 05-19-65 (not moved) Margaret Olson Park South Bend, WA 1967 (donated 1967 by Port of Willapa Harbor)

Author:	Brian Norden [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: More Snoqualmie
John T wrote: I was not trying to imply that the people at Snoqualmie are bad or careless. This is just a record of what has been removed from the collection. I wonder how much of this was part of the permanent collection. Some of the equipment named may have been brought onto the property for storage by individual members. At one time, many railway museums were willing to accept non-donated equipment on the property. The were several reasons why this occurred at museums across the country. And there are many reasons why this failed.

Author:	John T [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:49 pm ]
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Brian, The owner(s) of each piece of equipment is clearly shown. If PSRHA or NWRM isn't listed the car was privetly owned. In many cases cars were bought "for the museum" with and understanding (or hope) that the buyer would be repaid sometime. As often as not this never happened. The core collection consept came in long after most of the Snoqualmie collection was gathered.

Author:	Frank Hicks [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:32 pm ]
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Thanks for posting this information, it's very interesting! A couple of notes: - BCER S-103 is still on the property as far as I know, or at least was a year ago, albeit in rather less-than-pristine condition. I believe it is owned by the same people as the other electrics stored off the property in Snoqualmie. October 2013 photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nojuanshome/10525752954/ - A couple of minor corrections on Portland Traction 4003: built by Kuhlman in 1927, originally Interstate Public Service #266; to Public Service Corporation of Indiana #266 in 1931; to Indiana Railroad #205 in 1936; to Portland Electric Power #4003 in 1940.

Author:	John T [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: More Snoqualmie
Thanks Frank. Any bits of information are always welcome.

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FVHRS [ Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:15 am ]

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Re: More Snoqualmie

Frank Hicks wrote:

Thanks for posting this information, it's very interesting! A couple of notes:

- BCER S-103 is still on the property as far as I know, or at least was a year ago, albeit in rather less-than-pristine condition. I believe it is owned by the same people as the other electrics stored off the property in Snoqualmie. October 2013 photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nojuanshome/10525752954/

- A couple of minor corrections on Portland Traction 4003: built by Kuhlman in 1927, originally Interstate Public Service #266; to Public Service Corporation of Indiana #266 in 1931; to Indiana Railroad #205 in 1936; to Portland Electric Power #4003 in 1940.

BCER S-103 was still there in Spring of 2014. As mentioned it is in "less-than-pristine" condition

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Author:	dinwitty [ Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:34 am ]
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s103 in better days. looks like serious restoration, cant tell if its wood frame, steel frame with wood siding that deteriorated, whatever.. Getting the equipment to a safe place certainly was a priority despite ownership. -edit- ahh look at the turnbuckle on it, wood frame like wood boxcars. If you rebuild some steel girders would be a bonus...

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