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| Author: | stephenpiwowarski [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
Ex. Waynesburg and Washington coach, currently at Connecticut Antique Machinery Association in Kent, CT is available. Read more details below: http://www.ctamachinery.com/cama-news/help-determine-the-fate-of.html Steve |
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| Author: | Dave [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
It isn't from NC, but if anybody could give it a good home and do a great job on it the Newton Depot guys would be a good choice. Matt? dave |
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| Author: | Phil Raynes [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
The W&W coach is from the Waynesburg & Washington Railroad in southeastern Pennsylvania. It would be best (IMHO!) if it were returned to the Greene County Historical Society Museum where they currently have W&W #4 (PRR #9684) under cover. Local folks are trying to cosmetically restore #4 (it last ran in the 1980's). If anyone could restore it, however, Matt & his group could! |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
Which, unfortunately, leads to the obvious question: Why did the Greene County Historical Society get rid of it in the first place? |
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| Author: | Chris Chestnut [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
When I first saw this coach it was sitting on cribbing on the lawn of the historical society. It was uncovered and really had no supporters within the historical society to care for it. The locomotive was in a structure that resembled a tobacco barn. It was surrounded by chain link fence and also looked forlorn. There were no champions for either. The car was rough, but restorable. If it had stayed there rather than being placed uncover it would not be here today for someone to champion. |
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| Author: | Rick Rowlands [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
Last year the GCHS built a new steel building to house the 2-6-0, replacing the tobacco barn. The locomotive does not need a full restoration, just cleaned up a little bit and missing parts reapplied as it is in fairly good condition and retains all the charm of a locomotive that has been stored inside for 50 years. I don't think that the GCHS has the financial and physical ability to properly care for the coach, so they sold it off to someone who they thought would give it a good home. I'm surprised that CAMA with their much greater abilities also cannot finish the restoration of the car and use it on their railroad. |
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| Author: | David H. Hamley [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
As noted, the GCHS is a small organization in a lightly populated county. It is to their credit that they've done as well as they have in caring for loco 4. In accordance with good museum practice they sent the coach body off to a place where they felt it had a more promising future. A sorta-related question: At one point the GCHS and/or its supporters acquired two 7 or 8 ton 36" ga. Plymouth diesels, moved them to the trackage that also supported #4 and lettered them as W&W 7 and 8. What has become of those two? (My interest is because in the 1980s I was involved in rescuring those Plymouths and had both stored at my home for a while.) |
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| Author: | Rick Rowlands [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
Here are the photos that I took of the GCHS last October. https://www.flickr.com/photos/33523379@ ... 785322405/ David, one of the Plymouths appears to be operable and used to move No. 4 around. The other is at the rear of the property and last reported to have been sold to Pete Jedlicka / Ohio Vintage Coal Co. |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
Hot Metal wrote: Here are the photos that I took of the GCHS last October. https://www.flickr.com/photos/33523379@ ... 785322405/ Rick - Thanks for the photos. W&W 2-6-0 #4 (PRR 9684) is one good looking locomotive. Question; why the "space" at the rear of the Mogul's tender? Offhand, I don't recall other tenders so configured. Info appreciated. Les |
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| Author: | Rick Rowlands [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
No help here on the purpose of the tender deck extension. Looks bare: http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/prr9684s.jpg |
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| Author: | Matt Bumgarner [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
Thanks for the kind words. We are in talks with the owners now. Apparently, the car went south for awhile and served as an office car of sorts somewhere in GA as well, so there is some sort of SE connection... Thanks again, Matt Bumgarner Alexander Chapter-NRHS www.newtondepot.com |
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| Author: | Dave [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
Narrow Gauge in Georgia.......interesting. If it was the M&NG NGRR I may have some resources for the history for you, and definitely for the early version of the GM. dave |
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| Author: | christensenge [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
[quote="Matt Bumgarner"]Thanks for the kind words. We are in talks with the owners now. Apparently, the car went south for awhile and served as an office car of sorts somewhere in GA as well, so there is some sort of SE connection... Hi Matt, Koehler and Gayvert's book about the W & W, "Three Feet on the Panhandle" states that "... in 1930, along with several (two) passenger cars, (and) a gondola was sent to the Attapulgus Clay Company, Attapulgus, Georgia." It is my understanding, the W&W coach in question came from there. Best Regards, Glenn |
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| Author: | J3a-614 [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
I too am glad to see W&W No. 4 in a better structure, and am a bit surprised at seeing more track than I remember. This is also the only locomotive I've ever seen with Eames vacuum brakes. How many other applications of those are still with us today? |
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| Author: | philip.marshall [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Narrow gauge (Waynesburg and Washigton) coach available |
J3a-614 wrote: This is also the only locomotive I've ever seen with Eames vacuum brakes. How many other applications of those are still with us today? WW&F No. 9 in Maine has Eames vacuum brakes, as do a number of other pieces of Maine Two-Foot rolling stock. Passenger cars on the SR&RL for example were fitted with dual Eames vacuum and Westinghouse air brakes, and I understand these remain in place on the SR&RL parlor car 'Rangeley' at the Maine Narrow Gauge Museum in Portland, ME as well as SR&RL coaches 17 and 18 in Phillips, ME. -Philip Marshall |
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