More Sunken Locomotives?

whodom · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:13 pm

I noticed this photo, which shows a sunken steam locomotive tender, on a site that popped up on my Yahoo "news" feed this morning. There was absolutely no information regarding the location. I searched for matches for the image using tineye.com and got a couple of hits for Viet Namese sites, but they offer no more information than the original site.

Any clues where this might be?

Frisco1522 · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:21 pm

Has a NYC look to it. Or Lackawanna.

sbhunterca · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:58 am **Posts:** 728

SS Thistlegorm, sunk in the Red Sea in 1941 by a German air attack...

https://www.google.ca/search?q=thistlegorm&biw=1680&bih=902&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMIkcuSseaSyAIVjKUeCh1nfwy6

http://divezone.net/divesite/ss-thistlegorm-wreck

Steve Hunter

70000 · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:50 pm

LMS design Class 8F 2-8-0 which became one of the UK War Department standard loco types and was most probably en route somewhere in the Middle East at the time - most likely Iran.

A preserved example...

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Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:40 pm

Does the Red Sea qualify as a very large quarry?

whodom · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:45 pm

Thanks for the info and links. It's amazing how well-preserved some of the vehicles are after so long.

Richard Glueck wrote:

Does the Red Sea qualify as a very large quarry?

LOL. I'm sure someone, at some time has taken at least one rock out of the Red Sea, so I'd say yes.

Frisco1522 · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:20 pm

Mentioning quarry on RYPN is like tickling a mule in the ass with a straw. Be careful, be very careful.

dinwitty · **Joined:** Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:18 pm **Posts:** 2226

Looks like its mounted on a ship for delivery, would the engine be on it as well?

whodom · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:45 pm

dinwitty wrote:

Looks like its mounted on a ship for delivery, would the engine be on it as well?

There are lots of photos of the wreck at the google link in a post above. Here's a good diagram highlighting some of the things in and around the wreck, including 2 locomotives:

The locomotives apparently fell clear of the ship when it sunk as they're both well away from the hull.

rrpreservation · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:40 pm **Posts:** 45

In the Abacos, located in the Bahamas there is a group of sunken locomotives, I will see if I can find some shots and post them.

rrpreservation · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:40 pm **Posts:** 45

Found two shots! - I was going to add the link, but it sent me on a wild goose chase.

boilerwash · **Posted:** Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:24 pm

@rrpreservation

Those two shots are from the Bonne Terre Lead Mine in Missouri.

Frisco1522 · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:06 pm

Those two shots don't look like a real locomotive. Look at the size of the flanges.

boilerwash · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:25 pm

Frisco1522 wrote:

Those two shots don't look like a real locomotive. Look at the size of the flanges.

I never thought this particular one was a real locomotive. However, I've never seen a full encompassed shot of it as a whole to know what it actually looks like. The only thing available on the net are these murky close up shots of certain parts like seen above.

From what I have seen it almost looks like something someone built using an Allan Herschell "Iron Horse" park train as inspiration. How something like that ended up in the bottom of a flooded mine is a mystery to me.

JimBoylan · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:26 pm

The mine wasn't flooded when the locomotives were operating
down there, and they weren't removed before the flood.