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Author:  JR May [ Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
Just thought I’d bridge a posting in the classified section over to the interchange to perhaps develop a little more exposure and discussion.

From the classified section:
Stout Auctions of Williamsport, Indiana, has been asked to assist in the brokerage of private railroad equipment located in Delaware, Ohio. Some equipment is located on live rail with outside connects via CSX, and other pieces are land locked and will need transported via truck. Equipment is in a time sensitive situation and must be moved no later than December 24th, 2015. We are currently accepting reasonable / serious offers on all equipment listed. For questions or inquiries please email me at Derek@stoutauctions.com or call 219-508-8444

The collection includes:
50 ton two truck Plymouth which via the pictures looks to be in decent cosmetic shape.
30 ton Plymouth, two axle.
NYC Baggage car
C&O caboose
CR boxcar
Conrail N8 caboose in B&O colors
Frisco observation car
IC Dining car
SF Budd passenger car

Via google, it looks like the CCN Railroad was owned by a guy named Carl Nourse. Back in 2007 there was a newspaper article about his collection, which he kept in a train station in Delaware, Ohio and then also offered rides on full sized equipment. In 2007, Carl was 87 years old. I can only guess that perhaps Mr. Nourse has passed away and the equipment now needs a new home?

At least as we can see in the photos, the equipment looks like it had been well taken care of.

Anyone have any further history or idea of condition?

J.R. May
Wall, NJ

Attachments:
Stout Auctions Railroad Equipment.pdf [688.39 KiB]
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Author:  sousakerry [ Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:56 pm ]
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Anybody know the operating status of the locomotives?
Author:  Bobharbison [ Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:53 pm ]
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Solely based on the photos and descriptions, it would -appear- that some of this rolling stock was used on mainline excursions? That 4 year old genset he installed on the 2 coaches would seem to be overkill for short rides at a museum type display.

The RPCX lettering would also seem to imply excursion use.
Author:  JR May [ Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:19 pm ]
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Obiturary for the owner. Looks like he died in September 2015:

http://www.schoedinger.com/obituaries/C ... !/Obituary

J.R.
Author:  ctjacks [ Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
The green-painted cars appear to me to be from the fleet of Ted and Sally Church - I presume their cars were dispersed several years ago. They would have had to travel from the Erie, PA area to where they are now, presumably they received RPCA reporting marks then. Someone definitely has been keeping these cars up recently, though - interesting stuff.

Chris.
Author:  Rick Rowlands [ Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:57 pm ]
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I wonder if that NYC baggage car is the same one that we had up in New Castle, PA years ago. It was a Ted Church car.
Author:  bbunge [ Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:09 am ]
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Is it possible the Frisco business car was the car used by George Silcott for many years as an office, was painted blue and named "Ohio" for many years in Worthington?

Bob
Author:  JR May [ Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
Searching for the owner's name on RyPN, I came up with an older posting:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35660&hilit=nourse

Some information on the rolling stock is provided.

J.R.
Author:  robertjohndavis [ Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
JR May wrote:
Searching for the owner's name on RyPN, I came up with an older posting:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35660&hilit=nourse

Some information on the rolling stock is provided.

J.R.



Looks like the collection was bigger than what is in the auction house PDF. I wonder where NYC #1 is now?

Rob
Author:  Rainier Rails [ Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
Hot Metal wrote:
I wonder if that NYC baggage car is the same one that we had up in New Castle, PA years ago. It was a Ted Church car.


The #1182 was built in 1946 by AC&F in Lot #2910 as NYC #9112, 1 of 100 such cars (#9100-#9199) which were equipped with end doors in NYC Lot #2180. A number of these cars went to, or were intended to go to, Amtrak in 2 batches in 1974 and 1976. The #9112 was sold to Amtrak in 1974 as #1182 (1st). The #1182 was stored in October 1979 and was sold at an unknown later date*, but if it hadn't been stored, it would have been converted to HEP #1142 (2nd) in circa 1981.

*In RPC Annual V. 5 (1980-81), the #1182 is listed for planned conversion to HEP, and in V. 6 (1984), it is listed as sold to an unknown party (date of sale not listed).

Besides the cars listed in the other thread, 2 of which (NYC business car #1/#8/#11 and IC chair #2640) are not included in the auction brochure, another car which is listed in the brochure is AT&SF #3090:

Built by Budd in 1937 in Lot #977 as AT&SF 52 seat chair #3090, 1 of 30 such cars (#3072-#3101) built in that Lot, which was ordered in February 1937; cars were delivered between July and October. Besides #3084 which was wrecked in 1967, the remainder were sold to New Jersery DOT and reconfigured to commuter coaches: 25 were sold in 1969 with 82 seats, retaining the AT&SF numbers (including #3090), and 4 were sold in 1970 with 84 seats and renumbered to PC #2400-#2403. The 25 cars sold in 1969 were assigned to EL and CNJ lines; in my notes, I have the #3090 as assigned to EL. The #3090 was later retired and sold (1989?) to the Winnipesaukee Scenic RR, and later (when??) went to the Maine Coast RR. It was later (when??) stored in Ayer, MA, before moving (when??) to Delaware, OH.

Sources:

1. "Streamliner Cars Volume Two: The Budd Company" by W. David Randall (RPC Publications, 1981)

2. "Railway Passenger Car Annual Volume Five: 1980-1981" by W. David Randall and Zenon R. Hansen (RPC Publications, 1980)

3. "Railway Passenger Car Annual Volume Six: 1984" by W. David Randall and Elbert Simon (RPC Publications, 1984)

4. "Amtrak by the Numbers" by David C. Warner and Elbert Simon (White River Productions, 2011)

5. Mike Palmieri's Amtrak rosters

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Additions and corrections are welcome. Thanks in advance.
Author:  robertjohndavis [ Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
Ted,

I am not sure if I have ever thanked you for the detailed information you post on RYPN about passenger cars, so here it goes. "Thank you!"

You illuminate many threads with facts.

I appreciate the amount of time it takes you to share the information, and also your willingness to do so.

Thank you,

Rob
Author:  TrainWatcher [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
NYC #1 (PC #7) is back at home in the care of Mad River and NKP Museum.
Author:  bbunge [ Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:49 pm ]
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Very sure the Frisco platform car is George Silcott's "Ohio" from years back.

Here are two photos my father took in the late 1960's, early 1970's when the car was tagged on the back of a C&O freight to Athens on the Hocking Valley. This was an over night trip. I was about 10 years old when we took this trip.

Image

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I think the move was to provide a bill board type advertising for a hair saloon in Athens.

Nice to see this car survived the holocaust that hit the PRR Williamsport at nearby ORM.

Edit (10/27/15). Minor correction. These photos were taken on the trip to Athens to prepare the car for shipping to Worthington after Silcott purchased it from a man who used it as a stationary and moving office to support a national line of beauty parlors. Please note the friction bearing trucks.
Bob
Author:  Conrail4me [ Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: CCN Railroad Equipment Sale
I just want to take a moment to thank everyone for their interest and replies. It's wonderful to see the old photos of RPXC 1100.

I just updated our classified posting this morning with asking prices for all equipment. To answer the questions on the locomotives, they are fired up and given a short run every month. Brake stands are up to date and everything is in reasonably good operating condition.

Thanks,
Derek
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