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| Author: | crescent [ Thu May 26, 2016 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Steam on BNSF |
The thread on the 765 trips in the Chicago area, which will operate over BNSF trackage, has been some cause for wonder. I had purchased a ticket to ride the ATSF 3751 excursion from LA to San Diego this October, and earlier this week I received this cancellation notice from Trains and Travel International, who was selling tickets for private car seats on this trip: Quote: SANTA FE 3751 STEAM EXCURSION LOS ANGELES TO SAN DIEGO OCTOBER 1, 2016 CANCELLED BUT THERE IS ALSO SOME GOOD NEWS On Saturday May 21, 2016 The Central Coast Railroad Club excursion committee met in the Bay Area to discuss the ATSF 3751 excursion to San Diego. Chris Skow , owner of Trains & Travel International is a member of this club and is on the excursion committee. ***NO MORE STEAM ON ANY BNSF LINES*** At the meeting we were all surprised to learn that BNSF has just made a major policy change regarding excursion trains. "NO STEAM ON BNSF" This is a major shift in their operating policies. This puts a real damper on any future operations. On the San Diego trip we would have traveled on the San Diego Northern rails but would have had to turn the engine on BNSF tracks. Meanwhile I made several future excursion proposal ideas at this meeting for the next couple of years using the 3751 and traveling on some rear mileage. All of these proposals will ensure the operation of excursion trains with steam out of Los Angeles for a few more years. OCTOBER 1, 2016 STEAM TO PALMDALE One of my proposals was to run our charter steam excursion Los Angeles to Palmdale and return. The committee liked this proposal and we are now moving forward to receive the needed approval from Metrolink, as they own the former Southern Pacific line through Soledad Canyon and on to Palmdale. We are even going to be requesting a couple of photo run-bys in the Soledad Canyon area. This notice suggests that BNSF has implemented a sweeping ban on steam operation. Clearly, with MLW 261 and NKP 765 scheduled to operate over BNSF this year, that isn't the case. What's going on here? |
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| Author: | Dennis Storzek [ Thu May 26, 2016 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steam on BNSF |
No inside information here, but I do note that in each instance the name Amtrak is mentioned right alongside BNSF. It seems to me that a couple years ago the 261 guys used the good offices of Amtrak to run many places one wouldn't have otherwise expected. |
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| Author: | Trevor Heath [ Thu May 26, 2016 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steam on BNSF |
I wonder how this affects the folks in Albuquerque? TH |
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| Author: | Finderskeepers [ Thu May 26, 2016 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steam on BNSF |
BNSF has issued no such decree, and repeating this jeopardizes any future trips with BNSF. From Jack Wheelihan "I know most of you will probably not read/believe this but, it was NOT the 3751 group that put this information out! Also, the BNSF management is NOT "anti-steam"! The trip organizer is the one to blame for all this furor, as he sold out 4 cars worth of tickets, prior to ANY formalized negotiations were finalized. Blame Chris Skow!" |
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