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Author:  Les Beckman [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:36 am ]
Post subject:  Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
There apparently is a PRR flat car on display at Horseshoe Curve. I have seen it in the distance in a few shots. BUT, I can find no close up photos of the car itself! Folks take lots of train photos there of the curve; of the 7048; of the funicular operation. Are there any photos of just the flat car?

Thanks.

Les
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
Quite a few, actually--enough here to fill your modelling detailing needs:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspict ... ?id=244303

Image
Author:  Dougvv [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
Hi,

Is/was there a PRR diesel located up by the tracks that replaced the K4s?

Doug vV
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
PRR 7048, slightly rebuilt from its original configuration, was placed on display up at track level at the same time that PRR K4s 1361 was removed in 1985.
Author:  steamloco76 [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
Many years ago there was a wooden PRR N-6b Cabin Car on display at the base closer to the road tunnel. Vandals burned it.
Author:  Les Beckman [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
Quite a few, actually--enough here to fill your modelling detailing needs:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspict ... ?id=244303

Image


Thanks for the photos. It looks like F30A number 473908 has a "bow" or is this an optical illusion? If it is a fact, could the railroad have fixed it?

Les
Author:  Tom Davidson [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
Yes, it has a significant sag.

Tom
Author:  1361prr [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
Yes there is a PRR GP-9 where the K-4 used to be.
Author:  Ed Kapuscinski [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
1361prr wrote:
Yes there is a PRR GP-9 where the K-4 used to be.


Actually... it's a former Conrail GP10 painted to look like a PRR GP9. The air filter box is a dead giveaway.
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Any Photo at Horseshoe Curve?
Ed Kapuscinski wrote:
Actually... it's a former Conrail GP10 painted to look like a PRR GP9. The air filter box is a dead giveaway.

It's supposed to be a "dead giveaway," but it's not that simple.

All the "authoritative" accounts I've seen, including the CRHS's own website, allege that when GP9's were rebuilt into GP10's, be it by Paducah, Silvis, or other places, they were then renumbered upwards into the 75XX-series from the 7000-7200 series. 7048, as far as anyone can ascertain, never got renumbered into a 7500-series, so it most likely did not receive the electrical rebuild the GP10's got, nor the better power assemblies in the prime mover.

Conrail 7048 was chosen at the time of the K4s removal from Horse Shoe (1985) as among the best condition "original" locos left, even though it had the paper air filter case and blanked-out dynamic brake blister applied. Completely "original" unrebuilt 7006 went to the RR Museum of Pa. at almost exactly the same time. By 1985, there weren't many unrebuilt ones left to choose from; the supposed last two GP9's not stored were retained at Northumberland, Pa. for power plant/local service until Feb. 1986.

So: Looks like a GP10, but has the guts of, and is officially carried on the books as, a GP9. YOU decide. This is like arguing whether or not it's a K4s if it has different valve gear, or a different pilot or headlight/turbo arrangement--pedantic and anal-retentive.

This gets to be like the "running change" in an automobile's production where you have to check the VIN to determine exactly which part you need even within the same model year of manufacture. (Yeah, ask me how I know this.......)
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