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Author:  crij [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Crane History American/Ohio Database
Tried searching for it, but I guess my google-fu isn't up to the task... I thought someone had mentioned they had a database for American/Ohio Cranes?

Over the summer the Ct Eastern RR Museum took receipt of a 25 Ton Locomotive Derrick Crane. I am trying to fill in the gap for her history. Here is what we know.
--She was originally purchased by Boston & Maine RR, she shipped from the factory in April 1947, received May 1 1947, as work order# J-1457, received serial # 2157, and numbered B&M 3304. She is a model 825-G Mechanical and was shipped with a 40' lattice derrick boom, 7.5 kW magnet generator, outriggers, 2 hooks, tagline reel, and a 115hp Waukesha gasoline engine.
--She was sold before 1954, only notation is `sold to Me Cen' in the B&M 1947-1954 Equipment Book.
--Around 1992 the Providence & Worcester RR purchased her and renumbered her TC-401 and by 2004 she had a Detroit 6-71 diesel engine.

On her frame as the paint flakes off there is a ghost of lettering appearing _____S_D Co. and in another location _3301 (possibly X3301).

So we are trying to find out what part of the Maine Central she went to and what her number was, did she go somewhere else between MCRR & P&WRR? We are also looking for photos of her in all her paint schemes with the exception of P&WRR (we have plenty of those). Would also like to know when she got upgraded to Diesel.

I have tried the B&M Historical society which is where I got the B&M info, but haven't found anyone for Maine Central.

Thanks,
Rich C.
Author:  John T [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
Here is what I have from the American Hoist & Derrick records:

2157 25 ton 04-47 Gas
Boston & Maine RR Boston, MA
Providence & Worcester RR Woonsocket, RI 1981

I have a contact at American & Ohio and will see what else I can find.
Author:  crij [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
John,

No need to call American Ohio, have already mined their records and have scan of job order book entry, list of drawings, and order sheet, along with Operator's Instructions & Lube Manual. Seems like a bunch of great people up there.

Rich C.
Author:  John T [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
If it wasn't for the "J" order number I would not have known if this was an American or Ohio crane. From now on please specify that it is an American.
Author:  M Secco [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
"825 G " gives it away.
Author:  John T [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
You are right. If it was an Ohio it would be a Model E.
Author:  crij [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:29 pm ]
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Accidentally edited out manufacturer during a proffread. sorry
Author:  M Secco [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
Well, I learned something new .
Author:  John T [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
B&M bought several 25 ton American cranes at that time.

1952 25 ton 07-44 G Boston & Maine RR Boston, MA
2078 25 ton 10-45 G Boston & Maine RR Boston, MA
2156 25 ton 03-46 G Boston & Maine RR Boston, MA
2157 25 ton 04-47 G Boston & Maine RR #3304 Boston, MA
Main Central RR (1954 or before)
Providence & Worcester RR #TC-401 Woonsocket, RI 1981
Connecticut Eastern RR Museum Willimantic, CT 2016
2158 25 ton 04-47 G Boston & Maine RR Boston, MA
2302 25 ton 04-47 G Boston & Maine RR (with PD leads)
Eastern Railway Supplies Kingston, NJ
2502 25 ton 04-49 G Boston & Maine RR Boston, MA
Author:  John T [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
Order No.: J-1457 (and J-1458)

Serial No.: 2157 (and 2158)

Make: American

Model: 825G

Engine: Waukeshaw 145GK 115 h.p. @ 1300 rpm

Starter: Electric

Boom: 40 foot

Blocks: 20” single sheave snatch

Hooks: Swivel

Tagline winder: F

Brakes: BBG

Outriggers: F

Track clamps: F

Cab heater: F

Lights: 1500 Watt

Magnet generator: 7 ½ KW

Magnet controller: F

Options: Sliding window in door, Evans fan on one crane

Shipped: April 1947

Customer: Boston & Maine Railroad
Author:  Howard P. [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
John T,

"F" is listed after some items. What does that designate?

BTW, RMNE has Portland Terminal 198, built 1954 by American, I think it's an 825. PT Co. was jointly-owned by B&M and MEC. I suspect 198 is very similar to these B&M cranes.

Howard P.
Author:  John T [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crane History American/Ohio Database
2067 25 ton 10-45 G
Portland Terminal Co. #198 Boston, MA (to diesel)
Gilford Rail System #198 East Deerfield, MA 1979
Railroad Museum of New England Waterbury, CT 1996
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