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 Post subject: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:37 am 

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If you have noticed that the 36" gauge Brookville that had been sitting on a radius track at the RRM of PA is now gone, that is because it is now in Youngstown and undergoing a complete rebuild.

I explain everything here:
https://youtu.be/_hYQkzgAxiI

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:53 am 

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Rick,

That looks like a fun little beast. Here is what I could find on it:

3711 3/26/1951 B 36” 5T BFA Ford V8 Gas/Mech
Lone Star Cement Co., Hudson, N Y
Thomas Henning
Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania Strasburg, PA 08-98
Youngstown Steel Heritage Youngstown, OH 2017


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:30 pm 

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Damn Rick. Is there any limit to your appetite for a challenge?

I was watching the video yesterday and was suitably impressed.

Good luck on the 24" change over. It's never easy, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:03 pm 

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it's in good hands now. I'd be interested to see what the inside of that flathead looks like (thinking like the Titanic)


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:00 pm 

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No you really don't want to see what is inside. I pulled off one head and its bad! I am putting a more modern 302 in it with another transmission.

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:28 pm 

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Rick Rowlands wrote:
No you really don't want to see what is inside. I pulled off one head and its bad! I am putting a more modern 302 in it with another transmission.

Let me guess, you found evidence regarding that mysterious flooded quarry steam locomotive that gets brought up from time to time? I mean if that's the case, then that's certainly bad... We'd have to admit that the internet was right for once!

Bad joke aside I think I've got a rough idea of what it looks like... Fused metal, grease, oily sludge, and maybe a dead mouse or two.

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:40 pm 

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ever hear of Miss Belvedere...the '57 Plymouth time capsule?


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:49 am 

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A notable thing about this locomotive that worked in a cement plant is that they probably used portland cement instead of sand. All four sand boxes are half full of portland cement, which of course has cured into a semi hard mass. Nothing that can't be fixed with an air chisel, but interesting nonetheless.

The locomotive is not excessively worn away. The sprockets still have good tooth profiles and the wheels are not worn away to the extent that you usually find on little locomotives.

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:09 pm 

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Very cool Rick. Here is a similar beast in Symco, Wi. Don't know the history and is probably not identical. But kind of in the same area of interest. Smooth sailing. Regards, John.
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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:06 pm 

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Who owns the one at Symco?


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:04 pm 

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Rick Rowlands wrote:
I am putting a more modern 302 in it with another transmission.


I can see it now--tuned headers, triple carbs, high-rise, high velocity manifold, plenty of stainless braided hoses. . .and flames on the hood!

http://vintagehydroplanes.com/model_t_2012_09_302.jpg

Watch out, John Milner, Rick Rowlands' comin' after ya!!

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:20 pm 

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It seems your reengining will be much easier than mine.

I have a 10 ton Plymouth and my issue is the stock gas Buda ran 1200rpm max and 80hp. Hard to find an engine that runs that slow anymore.

I have a lead on a 3-71 Detroit with a PTO takeoff with double clutches. She might run a bit faster than stock but hopefully the clutches will be beefy enough. The stock engine had a torque converter in front of the clutch to dampen the shock.

I watched your video almost as soon as you posted it. Seems like you have a good base and nothing that can't be overcome with a little engineering/fab work.

I hope to get to work on my 'critter' soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:42 pm 

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Adam...please show off your Critter!
and Rick you seem like a man with a plan. Can't wait to see the progress. And I'll have to get up there to see your work in progress.


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:21 pm 

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Wow, you seem to be acquiring pieces quicker than I would have thought. Wasn't it this time last year that you acquired an Ore Shunting locomotive from the same museum? I look forward to your updates, but I'm curious if any work has been done on the shunter yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Narrow Gauge Brookville at the Railroad Museum of PA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:29 pm 

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Sure Dave!

It is in pieces, but I have about 95% of the parts. It still even has the wheel shields and Model TT headlights.


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