Dear RYPN'ers;

A while ago I started a web page for Shay 3289, running (well, maybe again next year) in Ottawa, Canada.

I have just uploaded this page, as incomplete as it is, to the link below. Warning; images/movies LARGE! Click on the thumbnails carefully if you are on a slow connection...

Happy watching;

John Stewart
Ottawa.

Shay 3289
freewrl-1@rogers.com

Good lookin' engine too--two trucker with a shotgun stack is always a welcomed sight.

Just curious... you went with white lettering (same as we came up with for GCRR 1925) and wondered how you arrived at that? We did some research and found out that Lima changed from gold lettering to either silver or white sometime in the late teens or early 20s. So, I'm pleased that somebody else found the same research and just didn't go tossing out gold paint without some thought.

Having tried to be conscientious about the paint job (we also painted in flat black to show "age and woods use"), in the back of my mind I have this devilish desire to play an April Fool's joke one year...and get the engine in its 1969/1970 red tank, coal bunker and cab with "Ole Sidewinder" lettering. Any body dare us?

http://nctrans.org
Wrinnbo@aol.com

Hi Jim;

> Just curious... you went with white
> lettering (same as we came up with for GCRR
> 1925) and wondered how you arrived at that?

First, the locomotive is owned and maintained by the Canadian Government; we just are incredibly lucky to get to twiddle the knobs and levers. She was/is down for boiler work this year; my understanding from the rumour mill is that a contract has been let for that work to proceed.

As to the lettering/paint style; you have to remember that this place is the Canadian equivalent of the Smithsonian, and they appear to know more about paint samples than the paint companies. :-) (they do some impressive conservation work)

There is an older picture, and one of the ones from my web page at:
http://www.shaylocomotives.com/data/lim ... n-3289.htm

I'll let you go from there.

Thanks;

John Stewart.



Shay 3289
freewrl-1@rogers.com

> Having tried to be conscientious about the
> paint job (we also painted in flat black to
> show "age and woods use"), in the
> back of my mind I have this devilish desire
> to play an April Fool's joke one year...and
> get the engine in its 1969/1970 red tank,
> coal bunker and cab with "Ole
> Sidewinder" lettering. Any body dare
> us?

You already know my suggestion on that, but you might have to wait a few years until the other engine is operable for the full effect!

That being said however, why not paint it like that, get some homemade tourist cars and repaint Barber Jct as Bear Creek for a photo special recreating the days of gaudy 60s tourist railroads? Do it near Christmas also for a nice holiday tie-in.

Of course, Cass did the red shay thing also in their early years, so Graham County wasn't alone. What had to be sad was a red shay pulling freight to Robbinsville. Sure that probably turned a few heads of visiting railfans.

Kevin

kgilliam@directvinternet.com

Jim, remember Mower Lumber 1 (Cass 1, now at B&O Museum) "received notable paint job (Chinese red cab, coal bunker and tender with dark green boiler jacket and domes) sometime in 1957" And this was an active logging engine.

You owe it to yourself to have some Photoshop guru make up a picture of the 1925 at NCTM in the "Ole Sidewinder" paint, then act as if it were actually painted that way.

Electric City Trolley Museum Association

What with the Graham County and Bear Creek Scenic both history why not?

Will you replicate Ed Collins too?

Dave

irondave@bellsouth.net

> What with the Graham County and Bear Creek
> Scenic both history why not?

> Will you replicate Ed Collins too?

> Dave
He was a one-off. There will never be another one like Ed!

K4s1361@hotmail.com

> He was a one-off. There will never be
> another one like Ed!

I remember hearing rural legends about a cache of films of Ed on the Graham County back in the '60s. Wouldn't it be great to do a special event with a temporary interpretive display built around those films and other Graham County / Bear Creek ephemera? Celebrate the mountain shortline railroad heritage? What with 1925 and Archie Fisher in the collection now it should be easy. Maybe Dan could come back from Chama.

dave

irondave@bellsouth.net

John,

Very nice photographs. Thank you very much.

I noticed that you refer to this Shay as C.N. 3289. In the past, it was referred to as C.N. 3243. Has something new turned up about it's original construction number?

As you stated earlier, the museum in Ottawa has certainly left no stone unturned to make sure everything is correct.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a


Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net

Hi James;

You might very well be correct; there is no builders plate on this locomotive, so I was going by (possibly incorrect) information.

The Museum puts out a pamphlet on the Shay locomotive, and does not put a c/n in it. This is what it does say:

"In May 1942, the Comox Logging and Railway Company moved three of the Shay locomotives to their operations on Vancouver Island. By 1951, the boiler from engine No. 3 was transferred to the frame of No. 4. This was a common practice in industrial and mainline railways, where using older equipment for parts and components was a cost-saving measure."

My collection of Shay information is not that great, so I am *very* open to changing the page title, etc.

Anyone care to comment?

Thanks;

John Stewart
Ottawa.

> I noticed that you refer to this Shay as
> C.N. 3289. In the past, it was referred to
> as C.N. 3243. Has something new turned up
> about it's original construction number?



Shay 3289
freewrl-1@rogers.com

I think that www.shaylocomotives.com is most probably correct. They show c/n 3243 as having been scrapped in 1954 and 3289 to be extant in Canada.

> The Museum puts out a pamphlet on the Shay
> locomotive, and does not put a c/n in it.
> This is what it does say:

> "In May 1942, the Comox Logging and
> Railway Company moved three of the Shay
> locomotives to their operations on Vancouver
> Island. By 1951, the boiler from engine No.
> 3 was transferred to the frame of No. 4.
> This was a common practice in industrial and
> mainline railways, where using older
> equipment for parts and components was a
> cost-saving measure."

> My collection of Shay information is not
> that great, so I am *very* open to changing
> the page title, etc.

> Anyone care to comment?

> Thanks;

> John Stewart
> Ottawa.


c/n 3243 is scrapped
dougb@sunserver.com