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 Post subject: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:54 am 

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https://wgme.com/news/local/conway-scen ... ing-tracks

A woman was struck by a Conway Scenic train on Sunday.


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:30 am 

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"Refusing to move"- another candidate for the nut house.


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:49 am 

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This could be an attempted suicide, indeed sounds like it.

That actually happened to the crew on UP 3985 some years back.


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:01 am 

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I was a front seat passenger on a SEPTA MU a few years ago when a woman jumped off the platform right in front of us at the Philly airport. She survived, just cuts and bruises. She was saying to the first responders that went under the train to get her out that the cannibals were going to eat her. Drugs? Alcohol? Some serious mental issues, for sure. And ironically, right across the platform was a 'suicide hotline' poster.


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:28 pm 
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The problem is the woman or her family will lawyer up and there will be a settlement eventually, regardless of the issues of her standing there facing the train and not moving...

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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:30 pm 

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p51 wrote:
The problem is the woman or her family will lawyer up and there will be a settlement eventually, regardless of the issues of her standing there facing the train and not moving...


Yeah, just like that "idiot on the tracks with a cell phone" got struck and killed last July by 844, and shut down the entire UP steam program with that lawsuit.

Oh, wait.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42269

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/20 ... ily-agrees

I fully agree that litigation has replaced baseball as a national pastime, but not everyone is litigation-crazy, nor is every potential juror seemingly eager to give victims a big payday against a big corporation. And for every suit that makes the headlines with big settlements rewarding stupidity, there are many more cases that don't end that way.

I'm much more worried about the likes of Conway Scenic and Steam Into History about such idiocy for the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:28 pm 

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The UP incident was super unique. It is much more the exception as far as no lawsuit being filed.


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:21 am 

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Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
The UP incident was super unique. It is much more the exception as far as no lawsuit being filed.


And we know this how, exactly?

Is someone keeping stats on excursion line accidents versus subsequent litigation filed?

Inquiring minds REALLY want to know.


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:17 pm 

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We are fairly certain of this because the surviving husband spoke about how it was a tradition of theirs to watch the 844 and train go by every year. They were railfans. Maybe seasoned "professional" railfans, but they were not John Q. Public. He spoke of how he was saddened not only that his wife perished but that it happened doing something they enjoyed doing together. Hardly the sort of person who was going to turn around the file a lawsuit against the railroad.

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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:03 am 

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There was 571 fatalities last year just due to trespassing. If you are a engineer long enough you will likely injure or kill someone at some point in your career. Unfortunately this is something to seriously consider if you are going to be a engineer regardless of the railroad you are operating on. I remember reading years ago about how a female crew member of the Royal Gorge railway fell out the back of the locomotive and was run over.

Here is a more detailed article about the accident. Certainly seems to be a suicide.
https://www.unionleader.com/news/safety ... db820.html


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 Post subject: Re: Conway Scenic Accident
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:45 am 

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Rob Gardner wrote:
Hardly the sort of person who was going to turn around the file a lawsuit against the railroad.


True, but I bet her insurance company has no such sentimentalities.

If there were substantial medical bills I'm certain their insurer would be looking to recoup those expenses if it seemed it was possible.

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