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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
The Monticello Railway Museum had two new pieces of equipment moved this past month to the museum: https://www.facebook.com/18563215177451 ... 293169327/ and https://www.facebook.com/18563215177451 ... 606502629/ Illinois Central "Forest Park" and baggage car # 635. Les |
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| Author: | Brian Norden [ Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
Les Beckman wrote: The Monticello Railway Museum had two new pieces of equipment moved this past month to the museum: So, can you or someone provide more information about the cars?Illinois Central "Forest Park" and baggage car # 635. What kind of car is the "Forest Park"? When were they built, etc? In advance, thanks. |
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| Author: | PMC [ Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
http://www.icrr.net/passenger6.htm IC 3336 AMTK 800514 Forest Park Lot 6799, Plan 7565, Built 1949, sold 1971 Wisconsin Steel of Chicago. Reported Jan 2020 to be on Railway & Industrial Services property in Crest Hill, IL and included in sale of property. |
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| Author: | Brian Norden [ Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
Thank you for the information and the link. |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
PMC wrote: http://www.icrr.net/passenger6.htm IC 3336 AMTK 800514 Forest Park Lot 6799, Plan 7565, Built 1949, sold 1971 Wisconsin Steel of Chicago. Reported Jan 2020 to be on Railway & Industrial Services property in Crest Hill, IL and included in sale of property. PMC - Thanks for furnishing that info. The "Forest Park" (IC 3336) was configured as part coach and part lounge. As I recall the story someone told me long ago, the car was a single car order and was meant for the "Green Diamond" consist. However, after the IC received the car, it wasn't assigned to the "Green Diamond", but worked various IC trains as was needed. Baggage car #635 was originally a coach (I seem to recall it being IC #3111) and was one of a number of heavyweight coaches that the IC rebuilt as baggage cars. BTW, the 635 is privately owned by a MRM member. Les |
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| Author: | PMC [ Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
Edit: Les posted already what I was looking up http://www.icrr.net/passenger6.htm : 3111 635 Coach - wide vestibule Baggage & express 1911 C1941 Currently at Monticello Railway Museum in Monticello, IL 1911-built coach #3111 was converted into baggage car #635 in 1941, when you think about it that is a very old car to convert, I wonder if the trucks on it now date to 1911. |
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| Author: | rusticmike [ Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
"Forest Park" does not appear in "Century of Pullman Cars Vol I". I think these two cars came from the ITM in Nobelsville which shows to be in the Forest Park area of Noblesville. Hence the names of the two cars. Any idea to the "given" name of the 3336? |
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| Author: | Thomas Cornillie [ Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
The IC had a practice of naming many of its non-Pullman cars, which is why you aren't seeing this name in that book. Here are photos of this car in its as received condition: http://www.mrym.org/3336.html This car is very complete from its last use in revenue service (49 years ago!) and is a good example of how railroads were seeking to reduce the costs of providing food & beverage service. The car has been located at Railway & Industrial Services, Inc. in Crest Hill, IL for many years. There were also several EJ&E wood and steel cabooses and 1 or 2 big hooks here as well. From what I understand, these have been scrapped. The real estate listing shows that an-ex Milwaukee Road SW1200 is still on the property: https://www.officespace.com/il/crest-hill/2125159-2201-n-center-st |
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| Author: | PMC [ Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
From the facebook post Les linked to: "M. A. Jones Trucking along with Anker Trucking of Lynnwood IL successfully moved these 2 railroad cars this week. The first originating from Crest Hill, IL and the second one from Effingham, IL" There are reports of #635 sitting in Effingham for years, including a discussion on TO, so no neither of these cars was at ITM. |
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| Author: | Dennis Slone [ Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MRM moves two pieces to Monticello |
IC 635 has two axle roller bearing trucks which probably date from the 1941 conversion from coach to baggage and express car. |
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