One of the more interesting parts of railroad history in the U.S. has been the touring of British locomotives in special exhibition trains. Other than the LNER 4-6-2 "Dwight Eisenhower" which is here permanantly, and the few industrial locomotives around, does anybody know of any other British locomotives that came on tour? Here is my partial list.

LMS 4-6-0 Royal Scott and Train
GWR 4-6-0 King George V and Train
LMS 4-6-2 Coronation
LNER 4-6-2 Flying Scotsman

Interestingly enough, all survive. The Coronation was actually Duchess of Hamilton, with a temporary name change.

david.wilkins@inisightbb.com

> LMS 4-6-0 Royal Scott and Train
> GWR 4-6-0 King George V and Train
> LMS 4-6-2 Coronation
> LNER 4-6-2 Flying Scotsman

> Interestingly enough, all survive. The
> Coronation was actually Duchess of Hamilton,
> with a temporary name change.

So too did 6100 Royal Scott come disguised. It was actually 6152 King's Dragoon Guardsman. They wanted a dependable engine for such a long journey and 6152 built in 1930 had the best record. The change was permanent.

Old Time Trains
oldtimetrains@rrmail.com

Other than the LNER 4-6-2
> "Dwight Eisenhower" which is here
> permanantly, and the few industrial
> locomotives around, does anybody know of any
> other British locomotives that came on tour?

I shall point out to you a couple others that came here on a semi-permanent basis, but not on "tour" as with the others: SR 4-4-0 926 "Repton" and L&SWR/SR/BR 0-4-4T 30053, both repatriated to Britain recently, and the Irish three-foot-gauge loco at NJMT recently discussed at length; as well as LNER 4-6-2 4489 "Dominion of Canada" (originally "Woodcock") and LBSC 54/SE&CR 751, an 0-6-0T, both at the Canadian Railway Museum in Delson, Quebec.

> Here is my partial list.

> LMS 4-6-0 Royal Scott and Train

"Royal Scot", not "Scott"..........

I believe that you have all the ones that came over on official tour for publicity's sake. One could point out a couple other demonstration models, such as a French deGlehn compound 4-4-2 imported by the PRR in 1904 for trials, and many very ancient examples of locomotives imported from overseas builders, but . . . .

lner4472@bcpl.net

Wasn't there a GWR 4-6-0 at one of the railfairs in Sacramento? I may be dreaming, but I thought I saw a picture of one.

david.wilkins@inisightbb.com

Perhaps you are thinking of the loco the Great Western sent to the Chicago World's Fair in 1893. I don't have its name handy but someone will know it. And yes, it was a broad gauge engine.

Museum of Transportation
rdgoldfede@aol.com

> Wasn't there a GWR 4-6-0 at one of the
> railfairs in Sacramento? I may be dreaming,
> but I thought I saw a picture of one.

No GWR 4-6-0 that I can remember. I've got slides of a GWR 0-6-0 - it looks like a Pannier Tank, but it's hard to tell from the rear angle I shot, and I can't read the number.

Also at Railfair '91 were two other British-built locos: "Dunrobin," a Sharp-Stewart-built 0-4-2T from Fort Steele, BC, and "Gwen", a Hunslet-built narrow-gauge 0-4-0T based here in the USA.

JAC

> Wasn't there a GWR 4-6-0 at one of the
> railfairs in Sacramento? I may be dreaming,
> but I thought I saw a picture of one.

There was a Dutch replica of a Brunel-like broad-gauge locomotive, Hollandsche Ijzeren Spoorweg-Maatschappij 2-2-2 De Arend (1939 Replica) from the Dutch Railway Museum, Utrecht, Holland (6' 4" gauge), but no GWR engine at Railfair 99.

Here's the 99 attendance roster:

http://www.railfair.com/what_trains.html


eledbetter@rypn.org

Don't suppose it counts as coming to America, but didn't Duke of Gloucester go to Expo 86 in Vancouver? Also, I believe Pendennis Castle may have visited an American port or two on her journey home from Australia (was that last year or the year before?), though she didn't leave the ship until arriving home in England.

rjenkins@railfan.net