The last Hudson

bobyar2001 · **Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:48 pm

Said to be the last remaining large portion of a New York Central Hudson 4-6-4. Coal tender that was with one of the NYC Hudsons sold to the Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo, later converted to a steam generator car after the locomotive was scrapped.

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo ... ydate%3A21

Wowak · **Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:28 am

Photo is taken at Steamtown NHS, it appears. Is the tender still there?

tim o'm · **Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:01 am

Yes, it is still there. That photo is actually pretty current. The orange fence is the boundary for the construction of the new Scranton police station. The fence appeared in early summer, and construction is underway. No chance now of a rebuilt lcl transfer shed in that area.

robertjohndavis · **Joined:** Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:10 am **Posts:** 2499

Tim,

What the heck is going on with the police station in the yard site? Didn't the cuty destroy enough of the DL&W when they took down the CHina Wall?

Steamtown has made tremendous progress in a city that can't figure out how to embrace tourism history while still demolishing and bulldozing everything it can get.

Makes we worry about what will happen to the locomotive shops the day the mfg. moves out.

Ugh.

Rob

Fitz · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:46 pm **Posts:** 188

Wow, if that's what's left of a Hudson six-wheel tender, as the TH&B engines had, it has been HIGHLY modified. The tender decks were quite squared off, not rounded like this one. Any more info available on it? Sounds like it would make interesting reading for us NY Central fans.

Joshua K. Blay · **Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:39 pm

When I was an intern at STEA in the Summer of 2002 I submitted a brief on it, shortly after it arrived in PA. Have the old briefs been archived?

Line of ownership-
NYC-TH&B-GMRC-STEA

Joshua

Greg U. · **Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:01 pm

Wasn't the extra water car that was used on the American Freedom Train from an NYC Hudson tender. I was under the impression that it was still around at a museum in Elkhart, IN. There is a picture of it in the AFT Yahoo group but for the people that dont want to join the group it will be up for a limited time at: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~gu292901/images/nycauxtender.jpg

Joshua K. Blay · **Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:11 pm

I doubt it Greg- this car has always been a steam generator or an actual tender.

Joshua

tim o'm · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:12 am

Steamtown has made tremendous progress in a city that can't figure out how to embrace tourism history while still demolishing and bulldozing everything it can get.

A lot can be said about the situation, and what opportunities the city won or lost in trying to find a suitable police station, but it will detract from the train ride experience if all they build is a flat roofed post-modern module the area is so fond of. Already the city is showing little regard for its heritage, by tossing the bushes, which landscaped the old Erie Lackawanna work car, along the CP Rail tracks a mile away.

Makes we worry about what will happen to the locomotive shops the day the mfg. moves out.

Rob[/quote]

Don't get me started. Tim

Erik Ledbetter · **Posted:** Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:13 am

Joshua K. Blay wrote:

Have the old briefs been archived?

Yes, we have everything we've ever published archived on CD-ROM, and can make any article avialble to researchers on request. Unfortunately we do not have enough server space to keep everything online.

NKP779 · **Joined:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:10 pm **Posts:** 89

The tender at Elkhart was from a Mohawk. In the 60's it was parked in Van Wert, Ohio. Repatriated for the American Freedom Train behind 4-8-4 2101. After the Chessie Steam Special, it burned in the roundhouse fire at Silver Grove, KY along with the 2101. The 4-8-4 went to Baltimore and the aux. tender went to Elkhart.