>A
> local contractor has told CP
> that for 25,000 they would take care of
> hauling the locomotive to the scrap
> yard, and CP has agreed to this if the Park
> Board does not want 735. Erwin
> explained that this outfit had given a bid
> of approx 65,000 to remove all
> the asbestos from the unit and keep it in
> the park. But Erwin explained he
> has a couple of military trained asbestos
> people willing to assist and that
> maybe working with this company something
> could still be worked out.

> ------Now this new info begs for some hard
> questions. I'm not experianced at all with
> asbestos, so please correct me if I am
> wrong. But how could disasembling the
> locomotive either on-site or moving it
> another site and scrapping it be cheaper
> than abatement? From my understanding, the
> same environmental protections and saftey
> measures would have to take place whether
> someone scrapping the engine totally or do
> an abatement. It sounds like the contractor
> might be doing a snowball job on CP and the
> park board...

> Terry

Good logic, Terry. It seems that there is a hesitancy to quote some numbers here relative to asbestos abatement. At Thronateeska Heritage Center in Albany, GA we recently abated asbestos on Georgia Northern 107 (ex FEC 88), a light Pacific. In discussions with the abatement contractor, who is local, it was determined that, since the locomotive was to be cosmetically restored, we would undertake the removal of all appliances and plumbing to make the abatement work easier.

The first time the engine was moved (for rebuilding of the display track) we had to do an emergency cleanup of asbestos that fell onto the track. That cost a little over $800 and was completed in a couple of hours.

The engine was then stripped down to the jacket by a contractor. The cab had to be left in place. The abatement contractor then constructed an enclosure according to appropriate regulations and proceded to remove the asbestos. Everything was done under permit and was documented photographically by the abatement contractor and myself. The abatement work cost $7500. If you add the initial emergency response cleanup, the contractor's costs for removing all appliances, etc., and the abatement costs together the total was still less than $12,000.

I'm sure that different states have somewhat different requirements for asbestos abatement, but if the ND folks are willing to take off what they can to make it easier for the the abatement contractor, it should be MUCH less than the $65,000 figure referenced above. That amount does seem extremely high.

Hope this helps!

Stephen

syfrettinc@bellsouth.net

What is Jerry Olson's e-mail address at NDSRM?
Thanks! - Doug Debs

doug.w.debs@fcimg.com

Could you post the link to the newspaper article that featured the engine and picture again?


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