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| Author: | mcgrath618 [ Mon May 10, 2021 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Union Pacific Says ‘Big Boy’ 4014 to Run in 2021 Quote: CHEYENNE, Wyo. — Union Pacific says that “Big Boy” 4014 will return to the main line in August but it’s not saying where — at least not yet. On Monday, the railroad posted on its Facebook page that it would be releasing details in the coming weeks about a trip to start in August. The trip would be the first time the world’s largest operating steam locomotive has run since its inaugural season in excursion service in 2019. UP canceled all plans to operate in 2020 due to the pandemic. “We know you missed seeing our steam locomotives last year nearly as much as the UP Steam Team missed operating No. 844 and Big Boy No. 4014. We have great news, the Steam Team is busy planning an excursion for No. 4014, likely kicking off August,” officials wrote. “Stay tuned to the Steam Club for more information regarding the route and display locations in the coming weeks as we finalize all of the details.” http://railfan.com/union-pacific-says-b ... n-in-2021/ |
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| Author: | QJdriver [ Mon May 10, 2021 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Hip-Hip-Hoorrrrraaaaaaayyyy !!!!!!!! |
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| Author: | Dave Lewandoski [ Tue May 11, 2021 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
and a year waisted off the 15 year tube life? That's a smart move Ed. |
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| Author: | Steamguy73 [ Wed May 12, 2021 1:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Dave Lewandoski wrote: and a year waisted off the 15 year tube life? That's a smart move Ed. Well what’s the use in running a locomotive, no less the biggest one in America, for no one to see? I don’t really see a reason to criticize operations that only ran their locomotives at most for one weekend in 2020, if at all. |
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| Author: | j6677 [ Wed May 12, 2021 6:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
It’s almost as if big crowds were dissuaded for the past year. |
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| Author: | Dave Lewandoski [ Wed May 12, 2021 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Steamguy73 wrote: Dave Lewandoski wrote: and a year waisted off the 15 year tube life? That's a smart move Ed. Well what’s the use in running a locomotive, no less the biggest one in America, for no one to see? I don’t really see a reason to criticize operations that only ran their locomotives at most for one weekend in 2020, if at all. and that is my point. All the hype, all the money (it's UP's money granted, but remember all the UP workers that got pink slips) waisted to run it one weekend, and it's gathering dust this year until August? |
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| Author: | Kelly Anderson [ Wed May 12, 2021 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
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| Author: | PaulWWoodring [ Wed May 12, 2021 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
It's 1472 operating days over 15 years. If my math is correct, and someone like Kelly Anderson can correct me, that works out to something like an average of having about 90 operating days per year if the railroad wants to stretch out the time to cover the full 15 years. So, a busy operation, like Strasburg, or even UP, might use up 1472 days in much less than 15 years anyway. A group like Fort Wayne might not use all available operating days in 15 years, since they operate more sporadically. |
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| Author: | Crescent-Zephyr [ Wed May 12, 2021 10:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Correct. The tourist railroad where I worked would use up those days in 10 years. |
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| Author: | BM765 [ Wed May 12, 2021 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Dave Lewandoski wrote: and a year waisted off the 15 year tube life? That's a smart move Ed. By that rationale, every engine that doesn't run at least 1,472 in a 15 year period has wasted life. That would include the vast majority of locomotives save for some of the very busy tourist railroads. UP did the right thing by waiting out the pandemic. All it would take would be one negative news story regarding how the train brought out large crowds during the pandemic to erase the positive impact that the steam program exists for. |
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| Author: | mcgrath618 [ Wed May 12, 2021 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Steering the conversation a bit, apparently the plans include a visit to the Pacific Northwest. Ed apparently also went on a scouting trip to St. Louis. |
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| Author: | Crescent-Zephyr [ Wed May 12, 2021 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
mcgrath618 wrote: Steering the conversation a bit, apparently the plans include a visit to the Pacific Northwest. Ed apparently also went on a scouting trip to St. Louis. St. Louis is in the Pacific NW? |
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| Author: | Ron Goldfeder [ Wed May 12, 2021 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
St. Louis may not be in the Pacific Northwest but it is the only practical location where it can sit next to another Big Boy. That would be #4006 at the National Museum of Transportation, where there is a connection to the UP main line. Yes, there is another such place at Steamtown in Scranton, but that is way, way off the UP. I'd love to see #4014 next to #4006. |
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| Author: | xboxtravis7992 [ Wed May 12, 2021 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
mcgrath618 wrote: Steering the conversation a bit, apparently the plans include a visit to the Pacific Northwest. Ed apparently also went on a scouting trip to St. Louis. Yes, Ed scouted out the Northwest in early 2020 right before the pandemic took off too. I am also hearing a lot of rumors about the former Rio Grande and the Moffat being another potential route. At this point though, its all idle speculation until UP officially announces the routes. |
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| Author: | p51 [ Wed May 12, 2021 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: UP Announces 4014 to run again in 2021 |
Kelly Anderson wrote: Fifteen years is fifteen years whether she runs or not, the clock is still ticking. I'm not getting your point. She couldn't have run in 2020 when the last thing anyone wanted was to cause large crowds to gather. Amen. For a PR effort, it would have counterproductive to run 4014 at all except for any test runs Ed might have wanted and even then, the headlines would have read, "Big railroad places foamers in jeopardy by having them show up to take photos"mcgrath618 wrote: Steering the conversation a bit, apparently the plans include a visit to the Pacific Northwest. That's where 4014 was going in 2020 before COVID came a'calling. I can only assume this means Portland. When 3985 came out to the area in 2005, Albina yard was as far as the Challenger got, so I assume a run up the joint BNSF/UP line heading toward Seattle is out of the picture. I can't even imagine the crowds that'll choke I-84 on such a trip if indeed 4014 heads to Portland.Ron Goldfeder wrote: St. Louis may not be in the Pacific Northwest but it is the only practical location where it can sit next to another Big Boy. Well, in somewhat proximity but nowhere near next to each other. Unless they've moved the Big Boy at the museum, the last time I saw it was pretty far away from the main line that passes the museum, with a lot of displays, buildings and other stuff between where that Big Boy sits now and the main line. While I agree that two BB's side by side, one in steam would be cool, I wouldn't bet $1.00 on it.
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