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| Author: | PRR8063 [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
What locomotive classes have been preserved in large numbers? Off the top of my head I know the following - 16x GG1's - 8x Big Boys - 4x Reading T1's - 3x EBT 2-8-2 (the other 3 aren't the same class) What other groups of locomotives have escaped the torch together? Very loose criteria for this. Has to be at least 3+ preserved to qualify and has to be a specific class for a specific RR (For example F units don't count as they went to many RR's albeit some slight differences). |
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| Author: | NJDixon [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
LS&I Consolidations. There's eleven of those, I think, not counting the one sent to Eglin Air Force Base whose existence is still the subject of much debate in some circles. C&O Kanawhas, you've got 12 of them surviving, originally 13. |
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| Author: | QJdriver [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
NdeM Niagaras, an even dozen, including the 3028 in pieces at New Hope. In Guatemala we have 6 heavy Baldwin mikes, too, from the FIdeCA. Scattered from Colorado to San Salvador, there are 5 heavy FIdeCA 2-8-0s, too. I won't even attempt to count China Rail QJs, or German Kriegslok 2-10-0s. Or for that matter, standard German classes, like the 01 Pazifiks, or 03s, 38 class 4-6-0s, 50 class 2-10-0s, 86 class 2-8-2Ts, or the 93 class with the same wheel arrangement. Then, the Harzer Schmalspurbahnen has 22 meter gauge 2-10-2Ts. No doubt I've missed some... |
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| Author: | FeGua 200 [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
More than one would assume to think. This is just off the top of my head. The Rio Grande K-36s & 37s come to mind with a 90% and 80%, respectively, survival rate. The SP has multiple classes fitting that criteria, the M-6s, S-10/12s, C-8/9s, and 4 Mk-5s. AT&SF 2-6-2s, without getting into subclasses, there are many, many of those things scattered around. There isn't a herd of them, the the DM&IR 2-8-8-4s come to mind too. In Guatemala there are 9 (3' gauge) 2-8-2s from the IRCA (International Railways of Central America) all of the same general dimensions, but reflect differences between builders and time constructed. Between El Salvador, Guatemala, and Colorado, there are 8 (3' gauge) 2-8-0s, also from the IRCA, all of the same class, the one in CO being the Georgetown Loop's 111. |
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| Author: | QJdriver [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
Although they look pretty similar, the Georgetown Loop 40 & 44 are an older, smaller class than the 111. (I might have missed one of the heavy 2-8-0s in El Salvador). |
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| Author: | whodom [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
NKP Berkshires: 755, 757, 759, 763, 765, and 779. |
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| Author: | Howard P. [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
EMD FL9 dual-mode diesel/electrics, built for the New Haven 1957-60. 60 built, at least 24-25 preserved. Howard P. |
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| Author: | Howard P. [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
Canadian Pacific G-5 class 4-6-2s, 1200-1301. Built 1944-48, by CPR itself (1200-1201) and Montreal Loco and Canadian Loco. 1201, 1238, 1246, 1278, 1286, 1293 all survive. Howard P. |
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| Author: | Howard P. [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
Others come to mind: UP 2-8-0s SP 0-6-0s SP 2-6-0s (?) FEC 4-6-2s--- at least 4 survive, one early version sold off by FEC, and the three US Sugar engines: 113, 148, 153. Howard P. |
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| Author: | southern154 [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
CPR 4-8-4's are an example with 100% survival rate (3100-3101) |
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| Author: | GTW Dude [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
All of the GTW 0-8-0's that were sent to Northwestern Steel and Wire. Originally there were 15 (corrected from 16) of them IIRC. all were used at some point at NWSW and when they were unserviceable they were used as parts locomotives. When all of them were donated to IRM there were 11 left (corrected from 13) left and IRM with the huge influx of 0-8-0's had no idea what to do with them. Meanwhile in Chicago at the Erman Howell Scrap yard where years prior Richard Jensen has stored his CB&Q 5632 and 4963 where it was now just 4963 scrappers were firing up into gettng rid of the locomotive once and for all. IRM goes into panic mode and offers to buy the locomotive to which the scrapper states they do not want money for the locomotive. IRM was then left with a tough decision either (A.) Let Erman Howell scrap the 4963 or (B) trade 4 (corrected from 5) of the closest to the mainline 0-8-0's to the scrapper in exchange for 4963. the latter was chosen but before any of the locomotives left the siding they were stored on IRM stripped them of any collectibles/parts they could get their hands on while keeping the locomotives barely allowed to travel on the CNW mainline and so they went never to be seen again. Another problem was with GTW 8310 which was missing one too many sets of drivers and could not be towed over the CNW to IRM. IRM chose the decision to cut through the firebox and use the cab as a display at IRM which to this day has never happened and from the last photos i saw GTW 8310's cab is still on a bunch of wooden pallets. Now left with 7 locomotives IRM needed to figure out what to do with the rest of them. 8380 was towed to Union and according to reports had a serious wobbling problem. as for the other 6 they were kept on the siding until being auctioned off around 2006. 8300: Sold to group in Independance Iowa and now painted as IC 30 8305: Sold to Quincy Ill for cosmetic restoration which never happened. locomotive is still sitting on siding behind the grain mill in Sterling IL to this day and is considered abandoned. Unknown at this time who owns the 0-8-0. 8327: Sold to Bandana Square in Iowa and is the only suriving GTW locomotive built by Lima 8373: P.W Dillon home (the man who saved the 0-8-0's and owner of NWSW) Sterling Il 8374: Privately owned and located in Geneva Nebraska reportedly NWSW gave up on the locomotive after the bearings overheated and melted into the drivers. 8376: sold to the Amboy Depot Museum in Amboy IL 8380: Kept by IRM currently on display |
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| Author: | xboxtravis7992 [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
I think due to Woodham Brothers on Barry Island, there is almost a plethora of very well represented British steam classes that were pulled from there most notably x8 GWR 4300 Moguls, x12 GWR 5700 0-6-0T Panniers, and x17 GWR 9400 0-6-0T Panniers. In addition to those at Woodham and others grabbed elsewhere there are a total of x18 LMS Stanier Black 5 4-6-0's and an additional x5 BR Black 5 built variants. |
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| Author: | Dick_Morris [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
Wikipedia lists 32 of the original 2,120 "S-160" USATC Consolidations still existing. Although this number is a stretch as several of them are being used for parts and others are derelict, there are still a bunch of them around, both on display and operational. In the U.S. there are seven. 1702 operates on the Great Smoky Mountains RR and Alaska Railroad #557 is coming ever closer to operating. Probably the next best of those in the U.S. is U.S. Army 612 which has been cosmetically restored at Age of Steam Roundhouse. In the U.K. I believe there are currently four in regular excursion service and another is under restoration and has good chances of becoming operational in the very near future. Another is being worked on very slowly. Youtube videos show operational demonstrations by museums of one each in Poland and Hungary in recent years. Of those in the U.S., two were formerly Alaska Railroad, the remainder were formerly U.S. Army/U.S. Army Transportation Corps. The design was manufactured in roughly equal numbers by Alco, Lima, and Baldwin, but it appears that only those manufactured by the later two are operational or near operational at this time. |
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| Author: | mldeets [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
Don't forget the 7 Soo Line Pacifics of the H class...........mld |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Locomotives preserved in large numbers? |
Howard P. wrote: Others come to mind: FEC 4-6-2s--- at least 4 survive, one early version sold off by FEC, and the three US Sugar engines: 113, 148, 153. Howard P. Howard - There are 5 Florida East Coast 4-6-2 survivors. In addition to the U.S. Sugar engines, the others are Savannah & Atlanta # 750 and a Georgia Northern example. All of these are second hand survivors, being sold by FEC. Another decent representation are the "Sports Model" 2-10-0's that Baldwin built using the Russian Decapods for inspiration. The list includes Great Western (now Stasburg) #90, AT&N 401 (Woodward Iron 41) and the three Gainsville Midland engines. Les |
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