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| Author: | linkthebutler [ Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
For anyone interested if and how a professional steam locomotive shop in the 2000s work. Look here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cxHBzVQ64ww The video is doubled, 00:00-09:45 in german, 09:45-19:33 same in english. Enjoy.p The RAW Meiningen is a subsidiary of the German Federal Railways (DB) and do maintenance, repair, rebuilt and even new construction of Steam locomotives for almost any steamer operating in europe. |
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| Author: | nedsn3 [ Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
Impressive and typically German- meticulously done. Pricey too I will bet. I think this is it: https://www.google.com/maps/place/98617 ... 10.4190129 Note the large roundhouse and turntable just slightly to the north. |
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| Author: | linkthebutler [ Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
No it is not. This roundhouse is just the old operating facility opposite the railway station. The actual usage? I do not know. You have to go a kilometer more to the north. This is the facility. The whole complex. https://www.google.com/maps?ll=50.58194 ... n&t=h&z=15 Here in wiki they have a nice shot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiningen ... tive_Works Pricey? You never know. All contractual terms are confidential. Also the pricing of the few US steam (Strasburg, Cass, Mineral, Tillamook) railroad shops are not public. But I have a gutt feeling when I hear from time to time what the people in Eureka send to Strasburg every time they have funds available for a little advance work on Hammond Lumber 2-8-2T then IMHO it is about half the US price. The complete restoration I know of was a 2-6-2T from park engine to full original operating condition performed in the 1990s. Time frame was 4 months including new welded boiler with all paperwork/licenses for operating on DB track. Price was in the mid 6-figure range Deutsche Mark before we get the Euro currency. The exchange rate then was 2:1 between Mark and Dollar. So you can figure out yourself. The problem is the overseas shipping. Every engine you can break down to fit in containers (Geared Steam, Industrial Steam, Narrow Gauge...) it could be a bargain. I just reviewed the video because I thought there is some price mentioned. Yes. At 15:10 they say the average main service price (compare to an 1472-day overhaul) is 300.000€. (Have to be done every 3-4 years regardless of usage. Lawfull certificates are for 3 years with the possibility of 1 year extension when certified inspector accept.) |
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| Author: | nedsn3 [ Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
The euro is now something like 1.09 to the dollar, so 300,000 euros is I suppose kind of a bargain for a 1472 day overhaul. Maybe Kelly could comment. I spent 4 years in Germany (Wiley Barracks, Neu Ulm, and Ludendorff Kaserne, Ludwigsburg) in the Army and absolutely loved most of it. Wonderful, welcoming people and a great experience. Ned |
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| Author: | Dave [ Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
No rebuilder has a perfect track record today. Might want to check with our brothers down under before sending your locomotive over there. |
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| Author: | 10stewi [ Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
While the auzies did have problems with the new boiler for 3801, I think it speaks volumes that the A1 trust/P2 mikado new build in the UK has trusted them with the construction of 2 new boilers. Those boilers are in addition to all of the new and restoration work Meining kept doing between the mid 2000's to the boiler contract in 2018. If there was still a quality problem, I am sure it would have been reported by now. They might have had problems in the past, but those issues seem to have been dealt with. Also, from my understanding, the Aus boiler code is stricter than the boiler codes in Europe so that might created communication and manufacturing issues that played into the ultimate rejection of the new boiler. |
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| Author: | Dave [ Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
Yes, and the Australian project was being managed by remote control by a committee of non-mechanical people..... but it could demonstrate a problem when dealing with other than European practice. |
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| Author: | nedsn3 [ Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
There are several more videos of work being done on a Pacific. Fascinating although I'm not sure precisely what they are doing! Lots and lots of skilled, exacting manual labor. Here is one of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgjaLsn47dQ Another with a funny little shop switcher moving the Pacific out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta3XCfN-cro |
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| Author: | Faller? [ Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
The tool in the Smoke Box is maybe a "Prosser"? The Rod certainly fits nice; push it on with your finger!! |
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| Author: | p51 [ Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
Didn't UK's Peppercorn 'Tornado' 4-6-2 have serious issues with a Meiningen-built boiler which had to go back for a lot of work? Not talking smack about anyone, I just think I remember hearing about that. |
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| Author: | Bob Hall [ Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Professional Steam Locomotive Shop Video in english |
I have no great desire to re-ignite the 3801 boiler debate, but I note that quite some time after this whole episode came to a sad end, there has been no official explanation of what went wrong, not that I'm surprised about that. However, the feelings around the preservation movement here are that the problem started with incorrect translations of measurements converted from imperial to metric on the drawings supplied from Australia. It's good to know that 3801 is back in service with an old 38 boiler that was overhauled in New South Wales and is providing excellent service. |
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