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Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Fri May 06, 2022 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Sierra Northern Starting Up

https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... alifornia/

Really a follow-up the the Fillmore & Western thread(s), but at some point we need to change the name....

Quote:
Following on the heels of a successful freight photo train April 22, Sierra Northern Railway’s Ventura Division operated a second train, this time with seven streamlined passenger cars between Fillmore and Santa Paula, on Thursday, May 5. The train was stopped numerous times for the railroad’s company photographer. The train was significant for the onboard crew to continue to familiarize themselves with train handling on many newly refurbished sections of the right-of-way. Sierra Northern Railway leases the line, which is owned by the Ventura County Transportation Commission.


More at the link, including a photo.

Author:  PMC [ Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sierra Northern Starting Up

They have already left Fillmore for another city on the line, Santa Paula, after a disagreement with Fillmore city government, in an attempt to clarify the use of city owned properties in the contract. https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... nta-paula/

Especially puzzling, the city was apparently surprised that the railroad would not agree in writing to abstain from anything that could possibly "bother the neighbors": “One item of concern was Sierra Northern Railway removing language saying that their use of the properties cannot bother the neighbors.” https://www.fillmoreca.com/home/showpub ... 3539530000 Not hard to see why Fillmore & Western eventually threw in the towel.

Author:  Bowmore [ Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Sierra Northern Starting Up

I volunteered on the F&W for many years. What they have said is nonsense. They built some low rent housing next to the tracks, then complain about the noise.
This is akin in many cases to people buying a house near an airport then complaining about the noise the planes make.

Author:  PMC [ Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sierra Northern Starting Up

The rain claimed a bridge on the SN RR, not sure if this is on the old F&W RR:
http://www.fillmoregazette.com/front-pa ... -rainstorm

Author:  R Paul Carey [ Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Sierra Northern Starting Up

In my experience handling contracts, I would presume the contract with the City of Fillmore - with respect to intended railroad operation - contained "absolute" language with respect to noise or any other effects that would interfere with "quiet enjoyment" of adjoining landowners or their tenants.

If so, this would be unfortunate.

The preferable language would be, given its essential nature, for the railroad to refrain from activity that "UNREASONABLY INTERFERES" with the rights of the neighbors and tenants, thereby permitting such things as necessary use of bells, horns, and switching as may be unavoidable at the place(s) at issue.

Further, with this said, the availability of "senior" managers to the leaders of such communities is an invaluable expression of "good faith" (presuming the municipality is likewise inclined).

Recourse to the influence of the State might be another option, in some cases.

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