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Author:  NS 3322 [ Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
I recently discovered that Epic Systems of Verona, WI has a Swedish passenger at its HQ. I was in the Madison area earlier this month, so I made a visit to get some photos.
It is currently painted and dressed to look like a Hogwarts Express car.

Does anyone know where this car came from? I initially thought it came from the Belfast & Moosehead Lake Railway in Maine; but it also could have come from the Hull–Chelsea–Wakefield Railway in Quebec.

Trucks are marked SJ 10601 and SJ 9917? Not sure how to decipher these? I can provide photos of the trucks if they may give away lineage.

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Author:  70000 [ Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
That one doesn't look as though it has got corrugated or ribbed sides which the photos I took on the Hull-Chelsea-Wakefield line seemed to have....
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They all had a/c units fitted to the roof as well.
Author:  PMC [ Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
70000 wrote:
That one doesn't look as though it has got corrugated or ribbed sides which the photos I took on the Hull-Chelsea-Wakefield line seemed to have....

They all had a/c units fitted to the roof as well.

Here are some photos of the same cars from four years ago, are the ribs painted as gold stripes on the WI car? The roof profile and vestibule sure look similar. https://www.flickr.com/photos/hansraffe ... otostream/ Odd choice to bring one to Madison to stuff and mount.
Author:  70000 [ Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
Actually, looking at the photos in the first post again, it does look like the ribs have been painted which helped disguise them

Whilst it may look a bit out of place in Wisconsin, it's no worse than that pair of British Railways Mk 1 carriages at that museum in Michigan!
Author:  Bartman-TN [ Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
On the markings...SJ is Swedish Rail. A number of years ago we were in Sweden seeing friends, one of whom was a senior official with the railroad. My wife's initials are SJ, so laughed about all of her rail equipment. One day, we were allowed in the railroad's warehouse and told to grab a few of their blankets which were not the current style. Thus we now have SJ blankets at the house.

I have roster equipment somewhere in my files and will see if I can find the car info.

Bart
Author:  mldeets [ Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
PMC wrote:
... Odd choice to bring one to Madison to stuff and mount.


At Epic systems that sort of question is not voiced nor even inferred. If the lady that owns the company wants something it is simply "Yes, Ma'am", the money appears and the task is done...........mld
Author:  SD70dude [ Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
Google Earth shows that the car in question was moved to Verona sometime between 2014 and September 2017. I believe the Hull-Chelsea-Wakefield equipment was not disposed of until 2019, and while one car was not cut up the new owner planned to keep it in the area.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-ne ... dismantled
Author:  PMC [ Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
SD70dude wrote:
Google Earth shows that the car in question was moved to Verona sometime between 2014 and September 2017. I believe the Hull-Chelsea-Wakefield equipment was not disposed of until 2019, and while one car was not cut up the new owner planned to keep it in the area.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-ne ... dismantled

Wow, what an ignominious ending, at one point that train was bringing C$8M into the local economy. My understanding is the line they were using was washout-prone https://railwaybob.blogspot.com/2011/11 ... field.html
Author:  JimBoylan [ Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
Bartman-TN wrote:
On the markings...SJ is Swedish Rail.Bart
Actually, SJ is the abbreviation for State's Iron. It's owned by the country of Sweden and older than steel.
Author:  wilkinsd [ Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
Good to see this car is Bjorn again in Wisconsin.
Author:  softwerkslex [ Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
JimBoylan wrote:
Bartman-TN wrote:
On the markings...SJ is Swedish Rail.Bart
Actually, SJ is the abbreviation for State's Iron. It's owned by the country of Sweden and older than steel.


Statens Järnvägar
Author:  Overmod [ Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swedish Passenger Car in Wisconsin
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"Actually, SJ is the abbreviation for State's Iron."


I thought it was supposed to mean something like 'Government Iron Roads' (with the same shade of meaning that 'high iron' has today in the United States).

With 'roads' meaning 'ways' semantically, same as a 'railway' vs. 'railroad'.
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