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Author: | wesp [ Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
Did this car originally have a clerestory roof, later "streamlined" as shown? Kudos to Alan Maples for helping with the project. Thanks! Wesley |
Author: | PaulWWoodring [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
Glad to see that car saved. I used to see it sitting at Ivy City with the wreck train all the time when I worked for Amtrak in DC. It was always fairly well kept in the '80s and '90s, like most wreck train equipment, just sitting, waiting for something bad to happen. |
Author: | Richard Glueck [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
Another positive indicator from the ARRM. An authentic Pennsy train to roll behind the K4s will be a great accomplishment. |
Author: | co614 [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
I'm wondering ( based on what's left of the blue paint) if this might be one of the 3 baggs we had on the head end of the Golden Spike Centennial Limited that carried displays showing American railroading's past, present and future.??? Sure looks like the blue paint used on that train. Ross Rowland |
Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
co614 wrote: I'm wondering ( based on what's left of the blue paint) if this might be one of the 3 baggs we had on the head end of the Golden Spike Centennial Limited that carried displays showing American railroading's past, present and future.??? Sure looks like the blue paint used on that train. Ross Rowland Someone doesn't know that Washington Terminal Co.'s work equipment was either painted in a very similar shade of blue as the GSC train, or (in the case of the RS1s that were the terminal switchers) painted in a darker blue that eventually faded to a pastel-shaded lighter blue, once again similar. As I understand it, your "control" would be the nearly-extinct ex-WT RS1 59 over in/near Salem, NJ--discussed in this forum in the past, although I think the owner at the time slapped another coat of lighter blue over it in the interim. |
Author: | Overmod [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
Wasn't the last operating MP-54 in that blue? |
Author: | Ed Kapuscinski [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:57 pm ] | ||
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Would make sense. I remember reading about the Washington Terminal shuttle from the employee parking lot to the engine terminal. Quote: Washington Terminal M.U. car 300. ex-Penn Central 618, is one of two blue-and-white cars (the other, ex-PC 659, is to be WT 301) that will pro vide WT employees with shuttle service between Ivy City Terminal and Union Sta tion because the Visitors Center construction will eliminate their parking lot See attached file for photo from June 76 Trains.
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Author: | wesp [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
Did this car originally have a clerestory roof, later "streamlined" as shown? |
Author: | J3a-614 [ Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
wesp wrote: Did this car originally have a clerestory roof, later "streamlined" as shown? While some earlier cars in class B60 had clerestory roofs, as near as can be determined from the photos I've seen, and this collection of diagrams, cars from class B60a and later were built with these round roofs. I was surprised, when looking at these diagrams, to see how at least some of the B60a class were built with end doors, like the better known horse express cars. http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiag ... &sz=sm&fr= Some other PRR pages that might be of interest: http://prr.railfan.net/ https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php ... icles-blog https://jbritton.pennsyrr.com/index.php ... oach-fleet |
Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: RAILROADERS MEMORIAL MUSEUM SAVES HISTORIC P.R.R. B60b B |
Ed Kapuscinski wrote: Would make sense. I remember reading about the Washington Terminal shuttle from the employee parking lot to the engine terminal. Quote: Washington Terminal M.U. car 300. ex-Penn Central 618, is one of two blue-and-white cars (the other, ex-PC 659, is to be WT 301) that will provide WT employees with shuttle service between Ivy City Terminal and Union Station because the Visitors Center construction will eliminate their parking lot See attached file for photo from June 76 Trains. The two WT shuttle MP54s ended up at the Wilmington & Western along with three from SEPTA. The two WT cars when they arrived had different shades of blue. I recall one being almost B&O Royal Blue and the other being pretty much Conrail blue. Just to show you there was no real standardization of "Washington Terminal Blue." The vague memories I had of the WT B60 would have been a badly faded/chalked CR blue. Go chisel under the graffiti and get back to us. |
Author: | EDM [ Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:33 pm ] |
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Other than some fresher industrial paint on some replacement steel, cab sides, former WT 59 at Salem didn't receive any new paint since leaving WT. The blue on the hoods is a good example of what the WT blue fades to. The unit's new owner has plans to fix up all the vandalism, replace all of the stolen parts and return the unit to service. The biggest part missing is the proper PG governor. Someone carefully removed it and covered up the opening in the cam box with duct tape. I suspect it was removed for another 539 restoration, and the party had plans on harvesting more parts, hence the duct tape. |
Author: | PMC [ Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:30 pm ] |
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