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| Author: | o anderson [ Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | MUNI restores faux Red Arrow car to operation |
Muni or Market Street Railway acquired two Red Arrow double end sort-of PCC cars a few years ago, but decided it was too much work to restore them to operation. One of the original San Francisco double end cars does a nice job of replicating one, after being the last car in a 16 car order refurbished at Brookville. https://www.streetcar.org/red-arrow-hits-target/ |
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| Author: | EJ Berry [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MUNI restores faux Red Arrow car to operation |
St. Louis Car used PCC body components for Red Arrow's 11-24 series cars, but they have heavier frames and more powerful motors than standard PCC cars. They're a good bit faster, too. SEPTA replaced them with Kawasaki cars on the Media and Sharon Hill lines out of 69th St. Terminal. These were part of the same order with the "K-Cars" used on SEPTA's Subway-Surface lines. SEPTA is currently designing new LRV's to replace the Red Arrow and City cars. Both Red Arrow and Philadelphia city lines are 5' 2 1/4" gauge and regauging the cars to 4' 8 1/2" RR gauge will be difficult. Red Arrow "Louies" do not have PCC trucks; they have drop equalizer trucks designed for Red Arrow's wide gauge and wheels. The MUNI car looks good. Phil Mulligan |
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| Author: | Scranton505 [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MUNI restores faux Red Arrow car to operation |
Reading between the lines, it sounds like Red Arrow 18 and 21 are available. Are they still at Brookville? BECo scrapped two Louies not that long ago, cars 15 and 17 if I recall. |
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| Author: | Crescent-Zephyr [ Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MUNI restores faux Red Arrow car to operation |
San Francisco is one of the best Transportation Museums in the world! With the Historic Cable Cars and Historic Trolleys, it takes you back in time within a natural environment. |
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| Author: | Ed Kapuscinski [ Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MUNI restores faux Red Arrow car to operation |
It's true. Was just out there for work and was NOT ready for how cool that stuff was. https://www.railpictures.net/photo/826655/ https://www.railpictures.net/photo/826584/ |
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