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Author: | superheater [ Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Continuously Welded Rate /Thermite |
Everything you wanted to know, but were afraid to ask. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdj5-6t6QI8 |
Author: | Overmod [ Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Continuously Welded Rate /Thermite |
Fascinating. An article on exothermic rail welding in which the word 'Boutet' is never mentioned. Or head-hardening, or bainite, or the need to test weld integrity with shock as well as increasing static pressure. Or flash-butt welding or jig assembly of CWR to reduce the number of field joints. Or the whole issue of rail anchors/anticreepers in transmitting expansion or contraction forces. I admit it was amusing to hear them mix up 'negative tension' and 'positive tension', but that might confuse some poor bastard who doesn't understand how to adjust to achieve 'neutral temperature' prestress when not working at neutral temperature. I think he missed a sure bet by not demonstrating the 'fire snake' method of rail lengthening... that's precisely the kind of sensationalism that isn't clickbaiting. |
Author: | superheater [ Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Continuously Welded Rate /Thermite |
Unlike some Youtubers, this one is receptive to comments regarding errors or omissions. You might want to make some. I assume anybody (attempting) doing a deep dive into a highly technical subject is likely to make a few mistakes and would benefit from the comments of somebody with in depth technical knowledge. Track structures and welding is decidedly outside my wheelhouse, so... (I am that poor *******, with the exception of having been born sufficiently long enough after my parents were wed to avoid the application of such a term). |
Author: | jayrod [ Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Continuously Welded Rate /Thermite |
This video popped up on my Youtube feed a few days ago but I didn't initially watch it since a lot of these types of videos are mostly entertainment or railfan videos without any worthwhile info. After seeing this post, I did watch it and it does have some interesting facts to it that may peak someone's interest to investigate more. I've never been directly involved in thermite welding rail myself but I did get to watch the process by a MoW crew a couple years ago. It's quite the fire show. |
Author: | Overmod [ Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Continuously Welded Rate /Thermite |
I have utterly no complaint about Veritasium's content or approach, and I can easily understand why a 'non-railfan' would make the Goldschmidt company the 'center of attention' in an explanation about application of the Goldschmidt reaction. There's quite a bit to be said about adjusting the alloy composition of the weld in the 'powder metallurgy', and the precise meaning of the 'countdown' in pulling the mold, etc. -- what's missing so far is careful reporting on how the experienced crews do the welds. I was privileged in 1977 to hear from one of the Conrail (ex-PC) rail-welding crew leaders (he mentioned the failure rate then was about 4 welds in 100) -- I regret that I did not take advantage of the opportunity to learn. The thing that kept biting at me was all that intercutting of HSR trains during a discussion of Boutet/Goldschmidt rail welding -- are those kits used for LGV maintenance? I'd think flash-butt welding or even laser keyhole welding would be needed for that application. |
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