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| Author: | NJT4272 [ Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster? |
Posted this on RR.net a few days ago and got no bites. Perhaps all the old timers are gone, so I'll try it here. An exhaustive internet search seems to yield only a sparse selection of the roster, so I'm putting the word out here. For a large modeling project, I'm trying to find a definitive list of the "Jersey Builder" passenger cars that made it to NJ Transit in NJDOT midnight blue / platinum mist / red stripe paint. These were the cars paired with the E-8s until 1987 when E-8 powered service on the NJCL ended. The same long-distance coaches originally acquired by the CNJ and reconfigured for commuter service. From what I've been able to determine, there were 35 of these cars in all, originally numbered 100-134 by the CNJ. There is no rhyme or reason to how they were re-numbered by NJDOT/NJT, except that they received numbers in the 5300-series. I've only been able to verify 20 of the 35 cars. I need the final numbering for all these cars under NJT, and specifically the one's still in NJDOT paint, as I'm paring them with at least 6 NJDOT-painted E-8s and I want accurately numbered cars. Any help would be much obliged. Fingers crossed An example in the link below: http://www.m.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=5873463 |
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| Author: | Daylight25 [ Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster? |
More an overall roster of second hand equipment that NJ Transit had, but the second page for the New Jersey DOT of Passcar Photos is a great place to start (just be weary of some dead links) Link: https://passcarphotos.rypn.org/Indices/NJT2.htm |
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| Author: | NJT4272 [ Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster? |
Daylight25 wrote: More an overall roster of second hand equipment that NJ Transit had, but the second page for the New Jersey DOT of Passcar Photos is a great place to start (just be weary of some dead links) Link: https://passcarphotos.rypn.org/Indices/NJT2.htm Much obliged, but I have been through those backwards and forwards already. It was one of my first stops. Verified most of the 20 cars I know from those photos. Here's what I have so far: CNJ 100 = NJDOT/NJT 5329 CNJ 101 = ??? CNJ 102 = NJDOT/NJT 5310 CNJ 103 = NJDOT/NJT 5312 CNJ 104 = NJDOT/NJT 5301 CNJ 105 = ??? CNJ 106 = NJDOT/NJT 5302 CNJ 107 = ??? CNJ 108 = ??? CNJ 109 = NJDOT/NJT 5316 CNJ 110 = NJDOT/NJT 5317 CNJ 111 = ??? CNJ 112 = NJDOT/NJT 5334 CNJ 113 = NJDOT/NJT 5319 CNJ 114 = ??? CNJ 115 = NJDOT/NJT 5331 CNJ 116 = NJDOT/NJT 5318 CNJ 117 = ??? CNJ 118 = NJDOT/NJT 5320 CNJ 119 = NJDOT/NJT 5327 CNJ 120 = ??? CNJ 121 = NJDOT/NJT 5332 CNJ 122 = ??? CNJ 123 = NJDOT/NJT 5333 CNJ 124 = ??? CNJ 125 = ??? CNJ 126 = NJDOT/NJT 5321 CNJ 127 = ??? CNJ 128 = ??? CNJ 129 = NJDOT/NJT 5326 CNJ 130 = ??? CNJ 131 = ??? CNJ 132 = ??? CNJ 133 = NJDOT/NJT 5328 CNJ 134 = NJDOT/NJT 5306 CNJ ??? = NJDOT/NJT 5315 |
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| Author: | Rainier Rails [ Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster? |
These cars were discussed many years ago in the following thread (on page #2): https://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35609 At the time, I did not have the full #5300-series renumberings, but I do have that data now, so I will include those that you are missing here, as well as corrections: Missing: #101 to #5300 #105 to #5313 #107 to #5314 #108 to #5315 #111 to #5311 #114 to #5325 #117 to #5308 #120 to #5304 #122 to #5309 #124 to #5307 #125 to #5334 #127 to #5322 #128 to #5305 #130 to #5323 #131 to #5327 #132 to #5324 Corrections: #112 to #5330, not #5334 #113 to #5318, not #5319 #116 to #5319, not #5318 #119 to #5303, not #5327 |
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| Author: | NJT4272 [ Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comprehensive "Jersey Builder" passenger car roster? |
Rainier Rails wrote: These cars were discussed many years ago in the following thread (on page #2): https://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35609 At the time, I did not have the full #5300-series renumberings, but I do have that data now, so I will include those that you are missing here, as well as corrections: Missing: #101 to #5300 #105 to #5313 #107 to #5314 #108 to #5315 #111 to #5311 #114 to #5325 #117 to #5308 #120 to #5304 #122 to #5309 #124 to #5307 #125 to #5334 #127 to #5322 #128 to #5305 #130 to #5323 #131 to #5327 #132 to #5324 Corrections: #112 to #5330, not #5334 #113 to #5318, not #5319 #116 to #5319, not #5318 #119 to #5303, not #5327 Wow! That is one of the most impressive collections of information I've ever seen. Truly stellar work, Brother Brumberg! I was beginning to deduce that the NJT series was going to be 5300-5334, but I wanted to be sure. I figured the answer would eventually lie in the original GN accounting, but that was a rabbit hole I wasn't prepared to go down. Thank you for your original heavy lift on this. I really do appreciate it. |
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