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| Author: | Chip Ordway [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Getting old :-) |
I laughed and cringed at the comment of another poster about realizing that he was "getting Old" when he read of the last GE U-Boat being preserved. I myself just turned 28, and spent most of my life up until last year growing up on Long Island. I present a small list of the stuff which I had seen and I took for granted. All have now dissapeared over the years: LIRR GP-38's LIRR Frieght LIRR cabooses Old style tickets (not gone, but QUICKLY dissapearing thanks to new ticket machines) Even simple stuff, like the antique depot signs that hung at Woodside until the rebuilding a few years back, or even WEIRD stuff, like the old crossing gate which was so long that it actually FOLDED when it went up. (Location--Oakwood Rd. on The Port Jeff branch...can anyone find me pics of it?) Yep....I'm getting old, too! I'm in the process of building a full-scale crossing signal in the backyard. Since when did modern companies like SafeTran and WC Hayes make older items like US&S, WRRS, and GRS equipment seem rare and antique?!?!? What else am I missing? Pardon me while I go color my graying hair! Chip ordway1440@aol.com |
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| Author: | David Ackerman [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting old :-) |
I would add to that list Amtrak's once ubiquitous F-40s. They're not disappearing quite yet, but I get the feeling we'll see spartan cabs diassapear within a decade or two. I can think of several lines I've watched disapear, though there are consistent rumors that one might yet see trafic again. (The sticking point is that the middle of it is now a trail, but that may only be a small obstacle.) Sincerely, David Ackerman (Hardly old at 29) david_ackerman@yahoo.com |
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| Author: | T.J. Gaffney [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting old :-) *PIC* |
Yup. I have to agree. For me its the following from the Port Huron area: GTW GP-9's GTW & Cabooses (77000-series wood, transfer and the ex-Santa Fe's) GTW 40-foot boxcars GTW Port Huron Car Shops GTW AND C&O St. Clair River carferries The original (1891) St. Clair River Tunnel The last GTW semaphore near Black River drawbridge(taken down and given to a GT official in 1997) C&O carferry idler cars (scrapped in 1996) Ex-B&O and C&O painted diesels THE GTW PERIOD! What I miss most? Tappan Tower, gone over 18 years now. You can see it in the left hand side of the photo below by Chrlie Whipp. TJG > I laughed and cringed at the comment of > another poster about realizing that he was > "getting Old" when he read of the > last GE U-Boat being preserved. > I myself just turned 28, and spent most of > my life up until last year growing up on > Long Island. I present a small list of the > stuff which I had seen and I took for > granted. All have now dissapeared over the > years: > LIRR GP-38's > LIRR Frieght > LIRR cabooses > Old style tickets (not gone, but QUICKLY > dissapearing thanks to new ticket machines) > Even simple stuff, like the antique depot > signs that hung at Woodside until the > rebuilding a few years back, or even WEIRD > stuff, like the old crossing gate which was > so long that it actually FOLDED when it went > up. (Location--Oakwood Rd. on The Port Jeff > branch...can anyone find me pics of it?) > Yep....I'm getting old, too! I'm in the > process of building a full-scale crossing > signal in the backyard. Since when did > modern companies like SafeTran and WC Hayes > make older items like US&S, WRRS, and > GRS equipment seem rare and antique?!?!? > What else am I missing? > Pardon me while I go color my graying hair! > Chip Port Huron Museum [img]http://www.michiganrailroads.com/RRHX/imagesRRHX/Stations/GTWTappanTower1983[CharlieWhipp].jpg[/img] tjgaffney@phmuseum.org |
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| Author: | ge13031 [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting old :-) |
Oh you youngsters ...where is the operating steam shop at Collinwood, OH ...my old "summer camp", no more Niagaras ....gone is CUT and the electrics, the basement is empty and the concourses where I cheered when my uncles came back from WW2 ain't the same ...NKP Hudsons on football specials ...East Cleveland Station where I first sold NYC tickets. Lake front pennsy station, B&O roundhouseS (plural) with EM-1's in pieces or singing to themselves in the sun. NKP fast reefer trains with everyday 700's flying thru the countryside. Kerosene lanterns, creosote, hot oil and grease. 440's switching in Canada, Ten wheelers on the way freights and supurb light pacifics pulling the opening window coaches. I am afraid I can't get awfully excited when a dismal bites the dust. lamontdc@adelphia.net |
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| Author: | David Ackerman [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | dreams die hard |
If it makes you feel any better I envy you your experience with revenue N. American steam. I've always loved steam, and only recently begun to appreciate that which you find dismal, (out of self defense I suppose. I can't go around hating the railroads over something that happened a couple of decades before my natal day, I'd lose my mind.) But I sure wish I could see all of the steam locomotives sitting around cold and dead steamed up. Were it practical it would be a beautifull world. Just imagine, MOT, IRM, B&O, CSRM, and many others active vibrant steam shops with ten, twenty, or more steamers sitting simmering on the ready track. Wouldn't that be pretty? david_ackerman@yahoo.com |
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| Author: | Aarne H. Frobom [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Welcome to the Future |
I might actually have to start thinking of myself as old. Here's a list I made a while back of thngs that have vanished from railroading since I started paying attention to the industry: Cabooses Interlocking towers, operators, and order hoops Form 19 order pads, carbon paper, and styluses Stations painted that awful green color inside All those upright typewriters Wooden baggage wagons Freight agents Industrial spurs Most yards Most branches Those grey, wrinkle-finish teletypes Fairmont cars Forty-foot box cars Forty-foot anything Stock cars Single-sheathed wooden box cars Solid bearings AB, U-12 and D-22 valves Grain doors Cab units Alco and Fairbanks-Morse Diesels One-note blat horns Every railroad company not painted yellow Jointed rail Car ferries Engine terminals Pools of spilled fuel and gunk Maintenance-of-way equipment without rubber tires Steam wreck cranes Regulation Carrier bankruptcies Lineside telegraph poles Open-sided auto racks Stations not filled by restaurants Public timetables The Official Guide All Chicago stations but one Passenger trains not run by Amtrak Passenger cars not made by Canadians Through-the-floor cast-iron hoppers And I suppose I should include steam locomotives, since I can actually remember those having been a four-year-old along the GTW. This list leads me to conlude we have actually arrived at the future. Hope we like it. Aarne Frobom |
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| Author: | T.J. Gaffney [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dreams die hard |
This is why the Steam Railway Institute that you guys have proposed is so important. I want my child (now 2 1/2) to experience what I couldn't until I was a teenager: a P.M. 1200 on the a mainline, and at speed to boot. Bless all of you at SRI/ MSTRP for getting this former teen so hooked he decided to make preservation and history his field of employment! TJ > If it makes you feel any better I envy you > your experience with revenue N. American > steam. I've always loved steam, and only > recently begun to appreciate that which you > find dismal, (out of self defense I suppose. > I can't go around hating the railroads over > something that happened a couple of decades > before my natal day, I'd lose my mind.) But > I sure wish I could see all of the steam > locomotives sitting around cold and dead > steamed up. Were it practical it would be a > beautifull world. Just imagine, MOT, IRM, > B&O, CSRM, and many others active > vibrant steam shops with ten, twenty, or > more steamers sitting simmering on the ready > track. Wouldn't that be pretty? Port Huron Museum tjgaffney@phmuseum.org |
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| Author: | Chip Ordway [ Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting old :-) |
> I would add to that list Amtrak's once > ubiquitous F-40s. Yeah, I rook my first LD trips behind them. Now, all I have to do is drive to Albany/Rennselaer, NY, and walk to the platform to see a nice up close view of about ten or so in a dead line, along with one of those dead TurboTrains. Just think.....20 yrs from now....people will be lamenting about newly-dead GE's! ordway1440@aol.com |
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| Author: | Ted Miles [ Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dreams die hard |
I waalk aboard a ship built in 1886 and in commercial operation until 1930. A working life of some 50 odd years. As a child I left a long Island Tailroad Station then 60 years old in a at least 40 years old. today a diesel is lucky to see 20 and a passenger car maybe even less. It is not just our computers that are speeding up! Life of transit items gets shorter every year. I think a wake up call to preservations in any field: TIME IS FLYING! Seek out what is important today not tomorrow! Ted ted_miles@nps.gov |
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| Author: | Pete [ Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting old :-) |
> Yep....I'm getting old, too! I'm in the > process of building a full-scale crossing > signal in the backyard. Since when did > modern companies like SafeTran and WC Hayes > make older items like US&S, WRRS, and > GRS equipment seem rare and antique?!?!? Don't get too worried. Except for the plastics and company logo, SafTran's plug in signal relays are *identical* to GRS type Bs, which date from the mid 1930s. |
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| Author: | ge13031 [ Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Getting old :-) |
> Don't get too worried. Except for the > plastics and company logo, SafTran's plug in > signal relays are *identical* to GRS type > Bs, which date from the mid 1930s. And Adlake will still make you a good kerosene lantern ... now if we only had a good source of "coal oil" lamontdc@adelphia.net |
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