Bangor & Aroostook X1215 *PIC*

Tom Cornillie · **Posted:** Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:03 am

This photo was posted recently to photos.nerail.org , by photographer R. Michael White, on April 12, 2003. Is this car still owned by the BAR/ Montreal Maine and Atlantic? Does anybody have plans in the works to preserve it? From this photo is looks to be in fair condition, however, its windows and roof definately needs to be tarped.

Original Caption:
"Nobody Loves Me
Non-revenue car BAR X1215 on a siding in Milo, Maine, near the former Bangor & Aroostook tracks, now Montreal Maine and Atlantic."

BAR X1215

rrhistorian@hotmail.com

L Beckman · **Posted:** Wed Apr 16, 2003 5:21 pm

> This photo was posted recently to
> photos.nerail.org , by photographer R.
> Michael White, on April 12, 2003. Is this
> car still owned by the BAR/ Montreal Maine
> and Atlantic? Does anybody have plans in the
> works to preserve it? From this photo is
> looks to be in fair condition, however, its
> windows and roof definately needs to be
> tarped.

> Original Caption:
> "Nobody Loves Me
> Non-revenue car BAR X1215 on a siding in
> Milo, Maine, near the former Bangor &
> Aroostook tracks, now Montreal Maine and
> Atlantic."

Almost looks like the car could have originally had a narrow vestibule. Anyone know for sure?

Also, what's the interior like?

Les Beckman (HVRM)

midlandblb@cs.com

Alexander D. Mitchell IV · **Posted:** Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:23 am

> Original Caption:
> "Nobody Loves Me
> Non-revenue car BAR X1215 on a siding in
> Milo, Maine, near the former Bangor &
> Aroostook tracks, now Montreal Maine and
> Atlantic."

I know Strasburg needs another car body like they need another hole in their heads, but....... Conway? Valley RR? Green Mountain? Heck, anyone in Maine? Even if someone just grabs this fella and cocoons it for 10-20 years......

lner4472@bcpl.net

Ron Goldfeder · **Posted:** Fri Apr 18, 2003 4:43 pm

Could be. But it also could be that to allow an open platform car to safely couple with cars having a standard diaphram they installed a diaphram striker plate at each end. This would tend to prevent the other car's diaphram getting hung up under the platform roof overhang and damaged. Just a thought after a look at the photo. Does anyone know for sure?

Museum of Transportation
rdgoldfede@aol.com

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2003 1:24 am

The car is owned by a local woman who has it up for sale. She also owns a yard full of ex-BAR cabooses built from WW2 troop Pullmans. The owner is quite willing to sell any and all of her equipment, but they must be trucked out, as all the brake piping has been removed. This particular wooden car is in pretty good condition. Don't expect cut-rate prices either. This is a business venture for her, not a rail preservation venture. The cabooses were priced at about $3800, as is/where is. I don't know about the coach.

glueck@maine.edu

RH · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2003 5:03 am

I've never heard of such a thing; what exactly are these cars?

Stephen Hussar · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2003 6:39 am

> I've never heard of such a thing; what
> exactly are these cars?

Richard,
you must mean these...

http://www.mrrwarehouse.com/troop1.htm
SJHussar@aol.com

B. Allan · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2003 8:32 am

There is an article in the latest Railroad Model Craftsmen about building a model of one of these cabooses, it includes some photos of the real cars, very interesting but very ugly.

B. Allan.

http://www.cvsr.com
cvsrkahuna@aol.com

Rob Davis · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2003 8:32 am

The new issue of RMC has a write up on these ex troop sleepers with protoype photos.

Rob

rdavis@rypn.org

Michael Allen · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2003 1:04 pm

If you can imagine a 50 foot boxcar with triple bunks, windows, and a porter, painted green and lettered "PULLMAN" it makes a lot more sense. The cars involved were emergency construction in WW II and were designed to make as much use of standard freight car components as possible.

MEA

> I've never heard of such a thing; what
> exactly are these cars?

ptrmgtsvc@juno.com

Richard Glueck · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2003 2:14 pm

> Richard,
> you must mean these...

Yes, I do. Please excuse the error. At any rate, the cabooses made from troop sleepers sit in the woods, in Brownville Jct., Maine. They are available for purchase, along with the original trucks and a handful of other vintage BAR boxcars. MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE OWNER BEFORE YOU ARRIVE TO EXAMINE THE CARS. The field is closed to the general public, but the owner is very cooperative about allowing visitors who ASK FIRST!.
The wooden coach is located on a siding in downtown Milo, Maine. Don't blink as you drive through.

glueck@maine.edu

Melanie · **Posted:** Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:51 am

> This photo was posted recently to
> photos.nerail.org , by photographer R.
> Michael White, on April 12, 2003. Is this
> car still owned by the BAR/ Montreal Maine
> and Atlantic? Does anybody have plans in the
> works to preserve it? From this photo is
> looks to be in fair condition, however, its
> windows and roof definately needs to be
> tarped.

> Original Caption:
> "Nobody Loves Me
> Non-revenue car BAR X1215 on a siding in
> Milo, Maine, near the former Bangor &
> Aroostook tracks, now Montreal Maine and
> Atlantic."

************** 9 SEPT. 2003:
This car is not wanted by the property's current owner; anyone interested? The new owner lives up that way - I spoke with him, and he needs to have the car gone by this coming December.
Drop me a line and I'll check w/him to make sure I can give out his 'phone number (NOT on list).

sembram@mail.amc.edu