Bullet Nose Betty

Bob Yarger · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2003 12:58 pm

Canada does not have the only cone-nosed 4-8-2s. Check out this JA in New Zealand.

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?october02/10-19-02/STEAM_JA1211_Gloria_at_Napier_19OCT2002.jpg
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Bob Yarger · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2003 1:01 pm

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?october02/10-19-02/STEAM_JA1211_Gloria_near_Clive_19OCT2002.jpg
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Bob Yarger · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2003 1:13 pm

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?october02/10-20-02/J1211_Gloria_at_Westshore_20OCT2002.jpg
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Wowak · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2003 1:24 pm

> Canada does not have the only cone-nosed
> 4-8-2s. Check out this JA in New Zealand.

I'm strangely... thirsty. ;)

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Bob Yarger · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2003 1:31 pm

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?october02/10-22-02/J1211_inside_the_cab_Napier_20OCT2002.jpg
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Hugh Odom · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2003 1:45 pm

> Canada does not have the only cone-nosed
> 4-8-2s. Check out this JA in New Zealand.

These were pretty cool engines. Note that they have Baker valve gear, some of the very few engines outside of the U.S. to be so equipped.

Good Steaming,
Hugh

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John Stewart · **Posted:** Fri May 23, 2003 2:51 pm

Bob;

I lived in Wellington, New Zealand in about 1990. This locomotive is more impressive in person than even on those great pictures.

The amount of steam was incredible; from working Climaxes to quite a few 4-8-4s. (the sounds of one accellerating from a stop in Lower Hutt could be leard all over the valley)

Interestingly, I had finished spending some time firing the ex. CPR G5a pacific #1201; the firing controls were almost exactly the same, only the cabs were smaller. :-) I did have the offer to join the local "mainline" society and work their locomotives, but had to decline for family reasons. Now, I wished that I had joined...

I also went to a few "A&P" shows, hit-n-miss gas engines, flying Tiger Moths, and of course, steam traction engines galore. Old cars were abundant; from the old Morris's with the "flick up the indicator" turning signals, to one lady who still went for groceries in her old Model "A" down in Greymouth. Wooden spoked wheels and hand cranked. Honest.

New Zealanders are a tough, resourceful people; more than able to tend for their locomotives.

I came back from there with my eyes opened wide...

John Stewart
Ottawa, Canada.

> Canada does not have the only cone-nosed
> 4-8-2s. Check out this JA in New Zealand.

Ottawa CMST Shay
freewrl-1@rogers.com

Jeffrey Harrison · **Posted:** Mon May 26, 2003 5:48 am

Hi All,

I spent many, many hours working on J1211 in the 1990's both as a coal burner and later when converted to a oil burner. The J class locos and more so the Ja class were known for there turn off speed, on 54" drivers speed up and above 70mph use to be common on the express passenger trains. Not to bad for a "narrow" gauge railway (3'6" gauge)

Jeffrey

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