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 Post subject: update to Preserved Steam Engines of Georgia
PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 10:22 pm 

I have finally updated my preserved steam engines of Georgia web page. I now have new pictures from Moultrie, Camilla, Albany, Tifton, and Kennesaw. I am going to redo the Kennesaw pictures, because right now they are gifs. The new pictures are from either October 2002 or April 2003. Please email me with any information on these engines.
Thanks,
Eric Lauterbach
http://e_lauterbach.tripod.com/georgiasteam.htm

Preserved Steam of Georgia
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 Post subject: Re: update to Preserved Steam Engines of Georgia
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 8:28 am 

One is a meter gage 0-4-0 which was returned to Glovers and never resold - if memory serves, it was reposessed and hauled down a mountain by a team of horses by a Glover agent and local sheriff - it is the together engine, and damn near took another finger off when I moved it back in the old Glover plant years ago. The 3 foot gage 0-4-0 in pieces was supposedly on its way to a purchaser when it got thrown off the flatcar on which it was riding and ended up in a lake near the track. It was brought back in, and disassembled and never repaired and resold. I wasn't ever able to find the documentation for it. It was the closest to restoration to running condition of all 3 left in Marietta.

Cylinders and some other parts for 3 more locomotives were left as new old stock in the Glover plant - hope they were preserved.

Dave

irondave@bellsouth.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: update to Preserved Steam Engines of Georgia
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 9:20 am 

> I have finally updated my preserved steam
> engines of Georgia web page. I now have new
> pictures from Moultrie, Camilla, Albany,
> Tifton, and Kennesaw. I am going to redo the
> Kennesaw pictures, because right now they
> are gifs. The new pictures are from either
> October 2002 or April 2003. Please email me
> with any information on these engines.

What about Rockton & Rion (nee-Woodward Iron) #31? She's supposedly someplace down there in Georgia, but I didn't see her on your page.

The South Carolina Railroad Museum
mconrad@compuzone.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: update to Preserved Steam Engines of Georgia
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 7:02 pm 

I believe this engine is in Waycross, Ga.. I have not had the chance to get down to see her yet. Hopefully, I will get down to there and Savannah this year.
Eric

> What about Rockton & Rion (nee-Woodward
> Iron) #31? She's supposedly someplace down
> there in Georgia, but I didn't see her on
> your page.


Preserved Steam of Georgia
ealauterbach@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: A different Waycross steamer?
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 10:20 pm 

> I believe this engine is in Waycross, Ga.. I
> have not had the chance to get down to see
> her yet. Hopefully, I will get down to there
> and Savannah this year.

Well, now, hold it, *I* thought the loco that was at the Forestry Center in Waycross was a former Argent Lumber Co. three-foot cabbage-stacked "swamp rat", which had originally been preserved at the Argent/Union-Camp hunting camp near Bluffton. At least that was what I was told after a couple hours searching the woods around that hunting camp in 1986.......


  
 
 Post subject: Re: A different Waycross steamer?
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:21 am 

Would you believe Hardeeville, SC?

Dave

irondave@bellsouth.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: A different Waycross steamer?
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 9:36 am 

> Well, now, hold it, *I* thought the loco
> that was at the Forestry Center in Waycross
> was a former Argent Lumber Co. three-foot
> cabbage-stacked "swamp rat", which
> had originally been preserved at the
> Argent/Union-Camp hunting camp near
> Bluffton. At least that was what I was told
> after a couple hours searching the woods
> around that hunting camp in 1986.......

Now that you mention it, I've heard that too. I've heard that there are TWO steamers in Waycross, the R&R/Woodward Iron #31 and one of the Argent locos (can't recall which one).

Argent #7 is in Hardeeville, right next to Town Hall. She's under a roof and in fair condition -- or was about two years ago when I last paid my respects. Almost made me want to push SCRM's rails closer together.

I've always had trouble keeping up with where all the Argent engines went. There are at least two out west, one in New England, the Hardeeville engine, the Waycross engine, and I think one in Alabama or Mississippi. There were seven total, all survive.

I *do* know the dispositon of almost all of the R&R locos. The 19 is in Greenwood SC, under cover. The 31 is in Waycross. The 20 is in Cleveland, GA (BTW, Yonah Station is not an old station, it's a new building constructed to look like an old depot -- I talked with the guy who bought #20 when he moved her). The 203 is the only ex-R&R engine that's operable, now running on the Kentucky & Ohio. The 712 is still in Rion. SCRM has a 15-year lease on her, we're planning to de-asbestos the boiler, slap on a coat of paint, and use her as our display engine when we finally get a shop and can start work on H&B #44. All other R&R locos were cut up.

The South Carolina Railroad Museum
mconrad@compuzone.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: A different Waycross steamer?
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 10:58 am 

> I've always had trouble keeping up with
> where all the Argent engines went. There are
> at least two out west, one in New England,
> the Hardeeville engine, the Waycross engine,
> and I think one in Alabama or Mississippi.
> There were seven total, all survive.

1 2-6-0 Fred H. Hallmark estate, Warrior, AL
2 2-6-0 Midwest Central RR, Mt Pleasant, IA
3 2-6-0 Southern Forests World, Waycross, GA
4 2-8-0 Connecticut Machine Assoc., Kent, CT
5 2-6-2 Transportation Museum, Nevada City, CA
6 2-6-0 Midwest Central RR, Mt Pleasant, IA
7 2-8-0 City Hall, Hardeeville, SC

Have photograph of #5 on the "Surviving World Steam Locomotive" CD-ROM.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james1@pernet.net


  
 
 Post subject: Matt is correct - both at waycross.
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 1:45 pm 

The 31 and an argent porter mogul are both at waycross. The mogul is the one from Union Camp, I have compared old photos of the Camp loco to ones I have taken of the loke at waycross... or as they say here way-across georgia. The diamond shaped windows in the front of the cab are pretty distinctive. It also has a pretty distinctive repair to the cylinder saddle - iron rods running across holding the cylinder castings to the saddle.
The porter is at the Southern Forestry World, the 31 is at the waycross depot museum, less than a five minute walk away, along with an RPO in really good shape, coupla coaches, a caboose, and other assorted odds and ends Both are under cover.

A retired state judge here in Savannah told me that the Camp loco was sold to some people for use in an amusement park in Florida. I suspect what he meant was that it was sold to the okefenokee park (almost Florida) and they found out it was going to cost a bit more than they suspected. They have a little 2' park railroad there with hydraulically propelled lokes in steam loco drag.

rudd@nospamcogdellmendrala.com


  
 
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