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| Author: | David M. Wilkins [ Tue Jul 15, 2003 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Typical, "typical" question |
Someone asked me the other day what a "typical" C&NW bi-level commuter train of the 1960s would have consisted of. Since Chicago commuter trains are not my speciality, I thought I would shop for answers here. The person wanted to know what kind of locomotives, (my guess would be one or two F-7s or GP-7s) and 3 to 5 cars, including the cab car. Any better ideas? david.wilkins@inisightbb.com |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Jul 15, 2003 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Typical, "typical" question |
Ask the Illinois Railway Museum--they got one. Your speculation is right on the money--either Geeps or F-units and a set of 1950's bilevels. Incidentially, a whole bunch of the 1950s C&NW bilevels are sitting in Joliet, Ill. awaiting refurbishing and/or resale. Contact me if you need a contact for purchase. (The shop switcher is an E9, and the same place has Amtrak F40PH's and a couple E8s for sale as well.) LNER4472@bcpl.net |
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| Author: | ge13031 [ Tue Jul 15, 2003 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Typical, "typical" question |
> Ask the Illinois Railway Museum--they got > one. I was just watching them go by on the webcam over the weekend ...pulled by the Amtrak F(?) lamontdc@adelphia.net |
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| Author: | John Craft [ Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: When in the Sixties? |
> Someone asked me the other day what a > "typical" C&NW bi-level > commuter train of the 1960s would have > consisted of. There was an article some time back in Trains about how C&NW completely overhauled Chicago commuter service from hand-me-down, steam-heated day coaches to bespoke bilevels. If someone can pinpoint the issue I'll be happy to get you a photocopy of it. JAC |
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| Author: | T.J. Gaffney [ Tue Jul 15, 2003 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: When in the Sixties? *PIC* |
> There was an article some time back in > Trains about how C&NW completely > overhauled Chicago commuter service from > hand-me-down, steam-heated day coaches to > bespoke bilevels. If someone can pinpoint > the issue I'll be happy to get you a > photocopy of it. > JAC Would it be "case for the Caationary Commuters?" Article in October 1983 Trains? Pair of Bilevels on the cover from METRA.... TJ Norwalk, Ohio Depots  tjgaffney@phmuseum.org |
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| Author: | David M. Wilkins [ Wed Jul 16, 2003 8:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: When in the Sixties? |
I believe this person was inquiring about the beginnings of the bi-levle era. david.wilkins@inisightbb.com |
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| Author: | Peter Nicholson [ Wed Jul 16, 2003 11:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Typical, "typical" question |
> Someone asked me the other day what a > "typical" C&NW bi-level > commuter train of the 1960s would have > consisted of. I've ridden the C&NW and successors since the 1950s. A "typical" train in the 1960s would be: Non-rush hour: One F7 and two bi-levels (one a push-pull cab car) Rush hour: One F7 or E8 and three to eleven cars, depending on the train. Long trains might have two or three additional cab cars scattered throughout. A couple of notable exceptions: 5:10 p.m. Milwaukee Division train ("club run") had four single-level coaches owned by various commuter clubs along with seven bi-levels. And one of the longer Galena Division trains had a B-unit to go with its F7. The first TRAINS article on the subject I am aware of was by J. Parker Lamb in the August 1960 issue. (C&NW ordered 116 bi-levels in January of that year to complete the re-equipping of its suburban service - 84 cars from earlier orders rounded out the fleet of 200.) pnichol6@prodigy.net |
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| Author: | Frank Hicks [ Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Typical, "typical" question |
> I was just watching them go by on the webcam > over the weekend ...pulled by the Amtrak > F(?) That's probably one of our two C&NW F7's that are still in Metra blue. There are plans to get at least one of them painted in C&NW yellow and green to make a complete matched train. Frank Hicks Preserved North American Electric Railway Cars fullparallel@wideopenwest.com |
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