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| Author: | Bob Yarger [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Santa Fe 3463 |
World's biggest 4-6-4 at Topeka. Are they still working on this engine? http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/ATSF/ATSF3463SteamTopekaKsb.jpg ryarger@rypn.org |
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| Author: | finderskeepers [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Santa Fe 3463 *PIC* |
> World's biggest 4-6-4 at Topeka. Are they > still working on this engine? What makes it the world's biggest? The C&O L-2's were heavier, as were the Milwaukee road F-7 and the C&NW E-4 class. The two western engines also had big 84 " drivers. The NYC hudsons had more heating surface and huge tenders to boot. But check out the attached photo. It clearly shows 3462, but what is that behind 3462..yep the fabled blue goose. Oh how did that one get away? 
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| Author: | Richard [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Santa Fe 3463 |
It clearly > shows 3462, but what is that behind > 3462..yep the fabled blue goose. Oh how did > that one get away? "We didn't let it get away. Remember, it was motive power departments, under the direct orders of top management that order the wholesale slaughter of steam. I agree, the "Blue Goose" would have been an important save, but so would have a matched set of operating PA's. We had an open discussion in here about a year ago, concerning near saves of classic steam power that went amuck. The stories were all the gamut, from documented orders to destroy locomotives like Don Wood's beloved CNJ Camelback 4-6-0, to the fabled rumor about the last EM-1 and NYC Hudson, both set aside for protection, only to be wiped out in scrap drives. It's is much easier to look back to 1955 from this viewpoint and draw a deep breathof regret. My father might have bought a used LIRR G5 ten-wheeler for the scrap price of $5000. But $5000 was probably more than the old man earned in a year, and he had a family. Today, a just retired passenger steamer for $5000 would be a bargain; heck, buy two, maybe even three! Still, there is a bittersweet pang that each of us feels when we review the sturdy black & white snapshots of locos lost to extinction. Just bear in mind that we have a streamlined C&O Hudson that is in desperate shape, a Greenbriar that is near working condition, and hundreds of park engine that might be better used as spare parts. It's still a critical year for steam preservation. glueck@maine.edu |
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| Author: | Ron Pigg [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Santa Fe 3463 |
I couldn't see the photo. Is there something I'm doing wrong? > What makes it the world's biggest? The > C&O L-2's were heavier, as were the > Milwaukee road F-7 and the C&NW E-4 > class. The two western engines also had big > 84 " drivers. The NYC hudsons had more > heating surface and huge tenders to boot. > But check out the attached photo. It clearly > shows 3462, but what is that behind > 3462..yep the fabled blue goose. Oh how did > that one get away? rrtp@onecliq.net |
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| Author: | Steam REalist [ Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Santa Fe 3463 |
> World's biggest 4-6-4 at Topeka. Are they > still working on this engine? Depends on how you define "working on." As of 2 years ago, they had, at great expense and effort, restored the bell and headlight. |
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| Author: | Jim [ Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Santa Fe 3463 |
> Depends on how you define "working > on." > As of 2 years ago, they had, at great > expense and effort, restored the bell and > headlight. Couple of equally important issues here. One being this engine never had its' nickel steel boiler shell replaced prior to retirement and these are subject to cracking. One wonders how few cars this engine would pull with 84 inch drivers given the number of cars you have to have today to pay the bills for excursions. I wish someone in Topeka would get serious and start a campaign to locate this engine at the State Historical Society Museum where it would be under cover rather than the talked about North Topeka location near the local wino shelter! jimhollis612@charter.net |
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| Author: | Brendan G [ Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Santa Fe 3463 |
> As of 2 years ago, they had, at great > expense and effort, restored the bell and > headlight. What is your definition of "great" expense and effort? |
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