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| Author: | R L Kennedy [ Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | USA 4062 |
U S War Dept 0-6-0 4062 built by Lima #8396 2/43 Supposed to have been converted to 2-6-0 by ? and then sold 4/47 to Stelco (Hamilton, Ontario) became their 20. Where and for who was it a 2-6-0? Link not related Old Time Trains web site oldtimetrains@rrmail.com |
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| Author: | Howard P. [ Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA 4062 |
> U S War Dept 0-6-0 4062 built by Lima #8396 > 2/43 > Supposed to have been converted to 2-6-0 by > ? > and then sold 4/47 to Stelco (Hamilton, > Ontario) became their 20. > Where and for who was it a 2-6-0? Probably converted by Midland Terminal Rwy. (Colorado); they had a bunch of these Army 0-6-0s that they bought surplus in 1945 and converted to 2-6-0s. The designer of these locos, Col. Howard Hill, allowed for this modification in the original plan for the 0-6-0s, but I think the MT engines were the only ones converted. Based on my time firing New Hope & Ivyland #9 (one of the USA 0-6-0s), they really started hunting and nosing above 15 mph. I would imagine the lead truck gave them the needed stability to run faster than 15. hpincus@mindspring.com |
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| Author: | R L Kennedy [ Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA 4062 Midland Terminal Ry |
Thanks for the info. Looking for a photo (scan) of one of these Midland 2-6-0's esp. ex 4062. Any leads appreciated. BTW the builders photo of USA 0-6-0's in LIMA book is the 4062! Stelco found the engine derailed a lot and they converted it back to 0-6-0. Suspect rough track in steel mill may have added to the problem. > Probably converted by Midland Terminal Rwy. > (Colorado); they had a bunch of these Army > 0-6-0s that they bought surplus in 1945 and > converted to 2-6-0s. The designer of these > locos, Col. Howard Hill, allowed for this > modification in the original plan for the > 0-6-0s, but I think the MT engines were the > only ones converted. Based on my time firing > New Hope & Ivyland #9 (one of the USA > 0-6-0s), they really started hunting and > nosing above 15 mph. I would imagine the > lead truck gave them the needed stability to > run faster than 15. oldtimetrains@rrmail.com |
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| Author: | Alan Maples [ Sat Nov 29, 2003 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USA 4062 Midland Terminal Ry |
> Thanks for the info. Looking for a photo > (scan) of one of these Midland 2-6-0's esp. > ex 4062. The Denver Public Library has several photos of these engines. Try www.photoswest.org and use the search feature, type in "Midland Terminal engines". Alan Maples AMaples@aol.com |
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| Author: | R L Kennedy [ Sun Nov 30, 2003 1:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thanks Howard & Alan Midland Terminal Roster? |
Any idea where I might find Midland Terminal Roster to determine ex USA 4062? > The Denver Public Library has several photos > of these engines. Try www.photoswest.org and > use the search feature, type in > "Midland Terminal engines". > Alan Maples oldtimetrains@rrmail.com |
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| Author: | Bob Yarger [ Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | MT Army loks |
Here's the three MT 2-6-0s blasting up to Cripple Creek. Nos 64 and 66 were Limas, No. 65 was an Alco. They had a few other Army 0-6-0s also, but went out of business (1949) before they ever got used. My understanding always was that all the MT Army locos went to the Norfolk & Portsmouth Belt Line, but that could be incorrect. http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00012727+OP-12727 ryarger@rypn.org |
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| Author: | buddy bob [ Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MT Army loks |
> Here's the three MT 2-6-0s blasting up to > Cripple Creek. Nos 64 and 66 were Limas, No. > 65 was an Alco. They had a few other Army > 0-6-0s also, but went out of business (1949) > before they ever got used. My understanding > always was that all the MT Army locos went > to the Norfolk & Portsmouth Belt Line, > but that could be incorrect. That could be true. In the early 1970s when I was at fort useless Iwent over to the belt line looking for parts tools etc. I didn't get much but the cmo told me that they got the 060s from other roads and not the army. Also some were 260s. regards bb btw I don't remember what road they came from. |
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