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Author: | T.J. Gaffney [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Marquette & Huron Mountain: again. *PIC* |
We keep coming back to this, and maybe someone has already addressed this, but does anyone have their all-time roster of equipment? Below is what I have been able to determine: LS&I 2-8-0's: All purchased in 1963, most out of service by 1969. #18- Now at Grand Canyon, operable #19- Was on display at Las Vegas, now to Grand Canyon? #20- To Grand Canyon, on Display. #21- Sat in Marquette for number of years, recently purchased by unknown individual and moved? #22- Undergoing restoration at Mid-Continent, privately owned. #23- Now at Catskill Mountain Railroad, Boyceville, NY. #29- Operable at Grand Canyon #32- Purchased by the Air Force at 1984 auction. Currents whereabouts unknown? #33- Purchased by Hocking Valley Scenic, traded to Ohio Central for a diesel, undergoing restoration at their Morgan Run Shops. #34-? #35- Purchased and moved to Illinois Railway Museum, stored pending eventual cosmetic restoration. ROLLING STOCK: COPPER RANGE #60: Leased to M&HM (according to Mid-Continent website) during early 1970's, then taken back for Kewennaw Central Tourist Operation. Purchased an moved to Mid-Continent in 1982 when that operation closed after Copper Range abandonment. Recently underwent major restoration. GREEN BAY & WESTERN #109- Sold to M&HM in 1964. Purchased by Illinois Railway Museum in 1985. There awaiting restoration. Understand that this had some sort of bay window put in so that it could be used as a caboose at GB&W? GREEN BAY & WESTERN #8020- Purchased in 1964 by M&HM. In 1985, the car was purchased by Mid-Continent members. Now used at North Freedom for storage of locomotive parts. (per Mid-Continent website) KEWANUEE, GREEN BAY & WESTERN #77- Sold to M&HM in 1964, purchased by Mid-Continent in 1985 auction. Today, #77 serves as a work shop and tool and material storage for steam locomotive LS&I #22 at North Freedom. LAKE SUPERIOR & ISHPEMING #64- Sold to M&HM in 1964, purchased by Mid-Continent in 1985. #64 is presently stored for future restoration. (sister car is at Green Bay, though never owned by M&HM) O.K., what else was there? I know they lost a bobber caboose in a fire in the late 1960's, but have found no history. Anybody? Also, there are two steel cars still on M&HM property which are in DIRE need of a saviour. Any idea their history? one has the number of #2393, which I'm guessing is in reference to its heritage. Picture below. Also link below to the Marquette & Huron Mountain website link of Dale Berry below. Marquette & Huron Mountain ![]() tjgaffney@phmuseum.org |
Author: | Matt [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Marquette & Huron Mountain: again. |
#34 is now operating on the Western Maryland Scenic as WMSR #734. It was given a new tender and a facelift to resemble similar WM 2-8-0s. > #33- Purchased by Hocking Valley Scenic, > traded to Ohio Central for a diesel, > undergoing restoration at their Morgan Run > Shops. > #34-? > #35- Purchased and moved to Illinois Railway > Museum, stored pending eventual cosmetic > restoration. Goose Creek Railroad gcrralh@aol.com |
Author: | T.J. Gaffney [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Marquette & Huron Mountain: again. *PIC* |
Just got an email about the ex-LS&I equipment below now at NRM at Green Bay. As far as I knew, these came to Green Bay originally, and were never at M&HM. If someone knows different, please let me know: Lake Superior & Ishpeming No. 24 - 2-8-0 Lake Superior & Ishpeming No. 62 (Vern Bushman)- Coach Lake Superior & Ishpeming No. 63- Coach Marquette & Huron Mountain tjgaffney@phmuseum.org |
Author: | o anderson [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Marquette & Huron Mountain: again. |
IRM also got the lightweight C&NW combine 7700 and I believe the heavyweight DM&IR coach 84 from the M&HM. The wood Green Bay coach has a bay window and a varnished picnic table that runs the length of the car. I recall that a pancake special or something like that was run on the line. |
Author: | Joshua [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Marquette & Huron Mountain: again. |
The picture of the line of engines is amazing. What brought about the auction in 1984? Am I to understand that the engines sat like that for 15 years? Any serious vandalism? #23 is undergoing a slow restoration. Why would the Air Force buy an engine? Joshua |
Author: | Steve Freer [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | target practice? |
> Why would the Air Force buy an engine? Any possibility it was for target practice? K&T #11 was used as such in 1963 at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds. Of the three steamers at K&T in use up to that time (K&T #'s 10,11,12), #10 is at TVRM as well as #12 (better known as SR #4501!) sfreer@tvrail.com |
Author: | Frank Hicks [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Marquette & Huron Mountain: again. *PIC* |
> IRM also got the lightweight C&NW > combine 7700 and I believe the heavyweight > DM&IR coach 84 from the M&HM. Correct. The wooden ex-GB&W car was actually M&HM 110, not 109; it's on display at IRM currently (it still has its bay window). M&HM 100 has been repainted as C&NW 7700 and is in regular service (see photo below), and M&HM 103 has been restored as DM&IR 84 and is also in regular service at IRM. There are photos of these three cars in M&HM paint in the recent 50th Anniversary Issue of the IRM newsletter. BTW, I believe that LS&I 63 at Green Bay is neither a coach nor identical to 64 at North Freedom; if I'm thinking of the right car, 63 is a wooden combine (though built by the same company as 64). Frank Hicks ![]() F-Hicks@wiu.edu |
Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Dumb guess on coach 2393 |
Based on windows, roof design, and number series, I'm laying my money (all 2 cents) on an Erie Stilwell. LNER4472-NOSPAM-@bcpl.net |
Author: | Larry Shiplett [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dumb guess on coach 2393 |
Based on windows, roof design, and number > series, I'm laying my money (all 2 cents) on > an Erie Stilwell. The Whitewater Valley RR purchased,at auction, three coaches in 1985. CNW 7718 a combine and Erie Stillwell 2331. There was also an other Stillwell scraped on site. The photo has the same style windows as 2331. pls1632@hotmail.com |
Author: | Bob Yarger [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: target practice? |
I was thinking that the target practice took place at Eglin AFB in Florida. Wasn't there a C&O 2-8-0 destroyed that way also? Somewhere, I've seen a photo of one of these engines after the bomb damage, but can't remember which one or where I saw it. > Any possibility it was for target practice? > K&T #11 was used as such in 1963 at the > Aberdeen Proving Grounds. Of the three > steamers at K&T in use up to that time > (K&T #'s 10,11,12), #10 is at TVRM as > well as #12 (better known as SR #4501!) ryarger@rypn.org |
Author: | Joshua [ Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: target practice? |
Bob: Quite right! This engine is what I thought of when I first read of the disposition of the ex LS&I engine to the Air Force. It was in a TRAINS magazine from the 60s or the 70s in the "Would you believe it?" section. The caption suggested a C&O heritage. That's what I couldn't fathom why the Air Force buying a 2-8-0 for target practice, particualarly in the 1980s. Sheesh! Joshua |
Author: | Mid-West Locomotive & [ Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Marquette & Huron Mountain: again. |
LS&I # 21 was moved to our shop at North Lake, WI in the begining of October. It was purchased by a father and son with plans to restore it. The # 21 is currently sitting with it boiler on a flatcar some work on it will start this spring. A former LS&I shorty caboose was sold at the auction to the Santa Cruz Big Trees and Pacific. greenchili@tds.net |
Author: | Kevin Gillespie [ Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Your Tax Dollars At Work!!! *NM* |
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Author: | David Farlow [ Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dumb guess on coach 2393 |
> Based on windows, roof design, and number > The Whitewater Valley RR purchased,at > auction, three coaches in 1985. CNW 7718 a > combine and > Erie Stillwell 2331. There was also an other > Stillwell scraped on site. The photo has the > same style windows as 2331. To go one step further, it is likely that this is a former Chicago & Western Indiana Stillwell purchased secondhand from the Erie. David Farlow hudson.industries@att.net |
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