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Author:  74volts [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Vintage Electrical Schematics

Hello All,

Do any of you guys know of a source for locomotive electrical prints? Right now I am looking for a schematic on a B&O E8. Maybe there is someone I can contact that specializes in such material. Wire Running lists are also very helpful.

Thanks....Mike

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Author:  Alan Maples [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

You might try contacting the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum. One of the members there tacing out the wiring on a Southern E-8, and has come up with some prints. Similar units may have different wiring schematics depending what upgrades a locomotive had in its life, but TVRM might be able to help.

Alan Maples

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Author:  74volts [ Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

> You might try contacting the Tennessee
> Valley Railroad Museum. One of the members
> there tacing out the wiring on a Southern
> E-8, and has come up with some prints.
> Similar units may have different wiring
> schematics depending what upgrades a
> locomotive had in its life, but TVRM might
> be able to help.

> Alan Maples

Thank you Alan...that is a good idea to contact the owner/operator of a similiar unit. I think if I could find the prints to a similiar unit I could figure out the differences. I know first hand how two of the same units can have different wiring. EMDs at least, tend to follow a certain pattern in their indivdual circuits. Many times on the job we get lease units in without a matching print. We best deal with it by getting a close match and then sorta just "go with it!"

Mike


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Author:  Jim Evans [ Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

> Hello All,

> Do any of you guys know of a source for
> locomotive electrical prints? Right now I am
> looking for a schematic on a B&O E8.
> Maybe there is someone I can contact that
> specializes in such material. Wire Running
> lists are also very helpful.

I have the 1945 EMD operating manual for the PRR 5900-5901 (manual No. 2300) which has a section of the wiring and a big pull-out "Typical Passenger Locomotive Wiring Diagram". But, the 5800 is an E7, not an E8.

But, if you want me to, I can scan in the chapter and the associated pull-out wiring diagram.

> Thanks....Mike

Jim Evans


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Author:  74volts [ Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

Hi Jim,

I would be happy to see what you have. Is it much trouble for you to scan the diagrams?

Mike

> I have the 1945 EMD operating manual for the
> PRR 5900-5901 (manual No. 2300) which has a
> section of the wiring and a big pull-out
> "Typical Passenger Locomotive Wiring
> Diagram". But, the 5800 is an E7, not
> an E8.

> But, if you want me to, I can scan in the
> chapter and the associated pull-out wiring
> diagram.

> Jim Evans


mkvolts@74.com

Author:  Jim Evans [ Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

> Hi Jim,

> I would be happy to see what you have. Is it
> much trouble for you to scan the diagrams?

It shouldn't be too bad. I will have to splice some of the images together to get the length of the pullout, but that's not a problem. It'll probably be a few days before I can get to it though.

I wanted to scan this whole thing in anyways, so this would be a good start. :-)

> Mike

JimE

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Author:  74volts [ Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

Jim,

There is no big hurry, take your time. I am only now starting my research on this upcoming project. The loco is not due to be at the museum until April. Thank you again ;0)

Mike

It shouldn't be too bad. I will have to
> splice some of the images together to get
> the length of the pullout, but that's not a
> problem. It'll probably be a few days before
> I can get to it though.

> I wanted to scan this whole thing in
> anyways, so this would be a good start. :-)

> JimE


mk74volts@yahoo.com

Author:  Dave K [ Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

Look up RSI (EMD's shortline parts distributor) and give them a call. While I don't think they have the item in question, they may be able to direct you to an outfit that does. I seem to recall that there was a small start-up company (former EMD technical people) that may have acquired much of the earlier schematic library from EMD.

To be fair, one should realize that in many cases, locomotive wiring tends to be modified over time-such that the as-built prints may be of little use.

> Jim,

> There is no big hurry, take your time. I am
> only now starting my research on this
> upcoming project. The loco is not due to be
> at the museum until April. Thank you again
> ;0)

> Mike

> It shouldn't be too bad. I will have to


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Author:  74volts [ Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vintage Electrical Schematics

Thanks for advice on RSI. I will give them a call. As far as wiring modifications....I have to tell ya....I work at CSX, as a locomotive electrician...and they even modify the modification! Many times the changes are not documented. I guess it keeps it interesting :)

later...Mike

Look up RSI (EMD's shortline parts
> distributor) and give them a call. While I
> don't think they have the item in question,
> they may be able to direct you to an outfit
> that does. I seem to recall that there was a
> small start-up company (former EMD technical
> people) that may have acquired much of the
> earlier schematic library from EMD.

> To be fair, one should realize that in many
> cases, locomotive wiring tends to be
> modified over time-such that the as-built
> prints may be of little use.


mk74volts@yahoo.com

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