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Author: | Dave [ Sun Oct 10, 1999 11:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Mexican Railroad Preservation |
<P>Interesting to see railroad preservation take<br>hold in Mexico....<p>The latest-the last extant D&H C-628 (610) and (2) ex-LIRR C-420's will be preserved and cosmetically restored. <p>Of course, these are only the most recent of many-including an FdelS C-420, an M424, a couple of F units and a whole host of other<br>things.<br> 74471.3045@compuserve.com |
Author: | L Beckman [ Sun Oct 10, 1999 11:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Mexican Railroad Preservation |
<P>Although it is nice to see the current policy of preserving historic Mexican locomotives, it is sad that when it came to preserving steam, Mexico apparently turned its back on the many ex-U.S. locomotives that went down there. This included locomotives from the Illinois Central, Nickel Plate Road, Chicago & Northwestern, the original Norfolk Southern, Florida East Coast and perhaps others that I have missed. I just find it ironic that with the decent job Mexico did of saving steam (including many U.S. BUILT engines) that not even ONE ex-engine from the major U.S. railroad companies was preserved!<br> midlandblb@cs.com |
Author: | other Dave [ Mon Oct 11, 1999 2:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Mexican Railroad Preservation |
<P>Yeah, the NS tiny Berkshires and the FEC 4-8-2s really hurt. If they had been offered for sale north of the border when retired surely they would have brought more than they got for them as scrap. <p>Dave<br> lathro19@idt.net |
Author: | Ken Willis [ Mon Oct 11, 1999 7:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Mexican Railroad Preservation |
<P>I can remember the days when Mexican steam was dying. There were a large number of proposals out to try and save some of it. Numerous inquiries were made by various "yanqui" groups regarding the purchase of engines. As memory serves they all got shot down by unrealistic expectations on both sides. The fans didn't want to pay more than token amounts and N de M wanted outrageously extravagant prices for what it had.<br> kenneth.willis@marad.dot.gov |
Author: | Jim Lundquist [ Mon Oct 11, 1999 7:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | dealing with Mexico |
<P>is a whole different story, boys. I know - I was there and tried that. The PA's were promised to our museum - the details were to be worked out the next month. Next month - the guys gone, the file cabinet's empty, and - "Who are you is the first question!" by the new guy behind the desk!<br> lundquist@sdrm.org |
Author: | ted Miles [ Tue Oct 12, 1999 10:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: dealing with Mexico |
<P>From what people are saying one of the only success stories about getting any of the US owned steam engines back from Mexico is the project that Bob Richardson of the Colorado Railroad Museum pulled off back about 1973. He brought a couple of engines up from Mexico and then traded it for a Colorado engine that had ended up in Rhinelander, Wisconsin. The sceond engine is in a park in colorado someplace. I don't recall all the details but they will show up on locomotive.com.<br> ted_miles@NPS.gov |
Author: | Kenneth Cotton [ Tue Oct 12, 1999 9:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: dealing with Mexico |
<P> Perhaps now is the time to deal with Mexico to get some of that equipment.Now that the US, read KCS and UP,are involved,perhaps some equipment,such as friction-bearing 40-foot boxcars,heavyweight coaches,and other equipment can be brought to the US now before it is all gone........<br> kbcotton@flash.net |
Author: | L Beckman [ Tue Oct 12, 1999 11:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: dealing with Mexico |
<P>Ken: Sounds like a capital idea. But who is going to come up with a list of what is down there? What roads did the 40' box cars, the heavyweight passenger cars, etc. come from? Obviously not all can be saved but even just a little bit would be better than nothing!<br> midlandblb@cs.com |
Author: | Ron [ Thu Dec 02, 1999 10:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: dealing with Mexico |
<P>Some folks have had limited success. A number of years ago, a Michigan electric group was able to bring back an ex-Twin cities PCC from Mexico City. I myself spent a lot of money and a lot of time in Cd. Juarez trying to just get a copy of Fred Noonan's (Amelia Earharts navigator) 1937 divorce record, to no avail. BTW, I hear the old Mexico Noreste, Juarez to Casas Grandes is to be abandoned. Railroading in the El Paso Southwest upper14@aol.com |
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