I am interested in knowing whether the FRA requires a Form 4 on completely brand-new welded boilers, or will the state code pressure vessel certification suffice.
Thanks in advance.

wsflco@yahoo.com

Every locomotive must get its Form 4, see the rule from the CFR below. Filling one out for a new boiler should not be difficult, since most, if not all of the information needed would be found in the paperwork connected with the design required by the ASME.

Sec. 230.17 One thousand four hundred seventy-two (1472) service day inspection.

(a) General. Before any steam locomotive is initially put in service
or brought out of retirement, and after every 1472 service days or 15
years, whichever is earlier, an individual competent to conduct the
inspection shall inspect the entire boiler. In the case of a new
locomotive or a locomotive being brought out of retirement, the initial
15 year period shall begin on the day that the locomotive is placed in
service or 365 calendar days after the first flue tube is installed in
the locomotive, whichever comes first. This 1472 service day inspection
shall include all annual, and 5th annual, inspection requirements, as
well as any items required by the steam locomotive owner and/or operator
or the FRA inspector. At this time, the locomotive owner and/or operator
shall complete, update and verify the locomotive specification card (FRA
Form No. 4), to reflect the condition of the boiler at the time of this
inspection. See appendices A and B of this part.


Strasburg Rail Road
kelly@strasburgrailroad.com

> Every locomotive must get its Form 4, see
> the rule from the CFR below. Filling one out
> for a new boiler should not be difficult,
> since most, if not all of the information
> needed would be found in the paperwork
> connected with the design required by the
> ASME.

Hello All:

Be careful as Part 230 does limit stresses in certain parts of the boiler to amounts less than that allowed in Section 1. That is, a "P" stamp does not automatically meet the requirements of Part 230.

Cheers;

PKurilecz

pkurilecz@yahoo.com

Unless I am mistaken, the current ASME B&PV Section 1 code allows a FS of 3.5 for new construction. A new locomotive boiler built under this requirement would NOT be allowed service under FRA rules as part 230 requires a FS of 4.0. Keep this in mind if you are seeking to replace an existing boiler with a new one.

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