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| Author: | Raul Nemkish [ Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Welded boilers and the FRA |
I am interested in knowing whether the FRA requires a Form 4 on completely brand-new welded boilers, or will the state code pressure vessel certification suffice. Thanks in advance. wsflco@yahoo.com |
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| Author: | Kelly [ Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Welded boilers and the FRA |
Every locomotive must get its Form 4, see the rule from the CFR below. Filling one out for a new boiler should not be difficult, since most, if not all of the information needed would be found in the paperwork connected with the design required by the ASME. Sec. 230.17 One thousand four hundred seventy-two (1472) service day inspection. (a) General. Before any steam locomotive is initially put in service or brought out of retirement, and after every 1472 service days or 15 years, whichever is earlier, an individual competent to conduct the inspection shall inspect the entire boiler. In the case of a new locomotive or a locomotive being brought out of retirement, the initial 15 year period shall begin on the day that the locomotive is placed in service or 365 calendar days after the first flue tube is installed in the locomotive, whichever comes first. This 1472 service day inspection shall include all annual, and 5th annual, inspection requirements, as well as any items required by the steam locomotive owner and/or operator or the FRA inspector. At this time, the locomotive owner and/or operator shall complete, update and verify the locomotive specification card (FRA Form No. 4), to reflect the condition of the boiler at the time of this inspection. See appendices A and B of this part. Strasburg Rail Road kelly@strasburgrailroad.com |
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| Author: | PKurilecz [ Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Welded boilers and the FRA |
> Every locomotive must get its Form 4, see > the rule from the CFR below. Filling one out > for a new boiler should not be difficult, > since most, if not all of the information > needed would be found in the paperwork > connected with the design required by the > ASME. Hello All: Be careful as Part 230 does limit stresses in certain parts of the boiler to amounts less than that allowed in Section 1. That is, a "P" stamp does not automatically meet the requirements of Part 230. Cheers; PKurilecz pkurilecz@yahoo.com |
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| Author: | G. Mark Ray - TVRM [ Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Welded boilers and the FRA |
Unless I am mistaken, the current ASME B&PV Section 1 code allows a FS of 3.5 for new construction. A new locomotive boiler built under this requirement would NOT be allowed service under FRA rules as part 230 requires a FS of 4.0. Keep this in mind if you are seeking to replace an existing boiler with a new one. G. Mark Look at our Revamped Website aw90@comcast.net |
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