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| Author: | Bob Luce [ Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | B & O High Ten Wheelers - Passenger Service |
TO AFICIONADOS AND HISTORIANS OF THE B & O RAILROAD: I have an inquiry regarding the B & O’s High Ten Wheelers at the Turn of the Century. In 1901 Baldwin and Rhode Island Locomotive Works supplied many new sleek Ten Wheelers to the B & O for passenger service. Most were compounds with high and low pressure cylinders, classes B-14, B-17, B-18 and B-19 with 68” to 78” drivers. Soon most were simplified, losing their compound cylinders because of problems with guides and crossheads. Most were modified to single piston valve cylinders and some received super-heaters and ‘Walschaert’ valve gear. The engines were re-classified by adding ‘a, b or c to the original class code. Ten Wheeler #2024, Class B-18ca became queen of the fleet. She was originally built as a B-19 by Baldwin then rebuilt at B & O’s Mount Clare Shops in 1927. This engine was painted olive green with gold and red stripes, similar to the new P-7 Pacifics at the time. It was a favorite of the B & 0’s president Mr. Willard. The engine made an appearance in the pageant ‘The Fair of the Iron Horse’. I am looking for any photos of this locomotive and paint information on the actual shade of green used. Regarding paint on the ‘Royal Blue Line’ engines between 1893 and 1910, how was the most elaborate of the Ten Wheelers painted? From photos it appears these 4-6-0 engines were not painted solid blue. Was the tender, cab, cylinders painted in royal blue with yellow / gold lettering and stripping? Was the boiler jacketing painted Light Grey or Russian Iron in color? Were the Drivers painted blue or black with gold pin stripping? What color was the color of the cowcatcher, smoke box, etc.? Did Brooks or the American Locomotive Works build any High Driver Ten Wheelers for the B & 0 between 1893 and 1910? If so, where do photos exist? The ‘B & O’ Museum is closed. I have looked in the books titled ‘B & O Motive Power’ by Sagle, the ‘Royal Blue Line’ by Harwood and Dubin’s Classic Train Books, but I can’t find this exact information. What other books should have this information or who else has photos and paint specs? If you can help narrow my search it would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob Luce bob.luce@prodigy.net |
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| Author: | Smokebox [ Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: B & O High Ten Wheelers - Passenger Service |
Why don't you try contacting the B&O Historical Society and the Maryland Historical Society which has B&O information? I'm not sure rypn is best venue to post your question; it is a forum for railway preservation, not necessarily historical railroad research. > TO AFICIONADOS AND HISTORIANS OF THE B & > O RAILROAD: > I have an inquiry regarding the B & O’s > High Ten Wheelers at the Turn of the > Century. > In 1901 Baldwin and Rhode Island Locomotive > Works supplied many new sleek Ten Wheelers > to the B & O for passenger service. Most > were compounds with high and low pressure > cylinders, classes B-14, B-17, B-18 and B-19 > with 68” to 78” drivers. Soon most were > simplified, losing their compound cylinders > because of problems with guides and > crossheads. Most were modified to single > piston valve cylinders and some received > super-heaters and ‘Walschaert’ valve gear. > The engines were re-classified by adding ‘a, > b or c to the original class code. > Ten Wheeler #2024, Class B-18ca became queen > of the fleet. She was originally built as a > B-19 by Baldwin then rebuilt at B & O’s > Mount Clare Shops in 1927. This engine was > painted olive green with gold and red > stripes, similar to the new P-7 Pacifics at > the time. It was a favorite of the B & > 0’s president Mr. Willard. The engine made > an appearance in the pageant ‘The Fair of > the Iron Horse’. I am looking for any photos > of this locomotive and paint information on > the actual shade of green used. > Regarding paint on the ‘Royal Blue Line’ > engines between 1893 and 1910, how was the > most elaborate of the Ten Wheelers painted? > From photos it appears these 4-6-0 engines > were not painted solid blue. Was the tender, > cab, cylinders painted in royal blue with > yellow / gold lettering and stripping? Was > the boiler jacketing painted Light Grey or > Russian Iron in color? Were the Drivers > painted blue or black with gold pin > stripping? What color was the color of the > cowcatcher, smoke box, etc.? > Did Brooks or the American Locomotive Works > build any High Driver Ten Wheelers for the B > & 0 between 1893 and 1910? If so, where > do photos exist? > The ‘B & O’ Museum is closed. I have > looked in the books titled ‘B & O Motive > Power’ by Sagle, the ‘Royal Blue Line’ by > Harwood and Dubin’s Classic Train Books, but > I can’t find this exact information. What > other books should have this information or > who else has photos and paint specs? If you > can help narrow my search it would be > appreciated. > Thanks, Bob Luce |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: B & O High Ten Wheelers - Passenger Service |
The Maryland Rail Heritage Library has quite a bit of photo coverage of the Fair of the Iron Horse, and I remember seeing photos of the 2024 at the Fair, as well as other 4-6-0 photos (whe Wilmington & Western, then the B&O Landenberg Branch, was one of the last stomping--or should I say tip-toeing--grounds for the B&O 4-6-0s). If you can make your way to the Baltimore Streetcar Museum some Wednesday, our crew/I would be delighted to help you. Contact me at LNER4472-at-bcpl.net for more information. LNER4472-NOSPAM-@bcpl.net |
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| Author: | Phil Mulligan [ Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: B & O High Ten Wheelers - Passenger Service |
Also see Herb Harwood's book on the Royal Blue Line. Royal Blue Line: The Classic B&O Train Between Washington and New York, by Herbert H. Harwood, Jr. Johns Hopkins Univ Press, 8½ x 11 paperback, 200 pgs. B&O used fancy passenger 4-6-0's to open this service. Your favorite museum book store should be able to order it; otherwise the B&ORRHS has it. See: http://www.borhs.org/ Electric City Trolley Museum Association |
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