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 Post subject: RS-11 Available ?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:46 am 

Yet another "problem child"-ex CV , no less.

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 Post subject: Re: RS-11 Available ?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:53 am 

> Yet another "problem child"-ex CV
> , no less.

Sounds like a good candidate to go to Duluth with her DW&P background. The Lake Superior folks do a fine job with their restorations and have an interesting collection.

Don C.

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 Post subject: Re: RS-11 Available ?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:14 am 

If one takes the viewpoint of a "strict constructionist", this locomotive (CV 3608) should be preserved as a CV unit-for it was modified extensively at St. Albans. The prima facie evidence is the lowered short nose.

> Sounds like a good candidate to go to Duluth
> with her DW&P background. The Lake
> Superior folks do a fine job with their
> restorations and have an interesting
> collection.

> Don C.


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 Post subject: But when was it chopped?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:30 am 

> If one takes the viewpoint of a "strict
> constructionist", this locomotive (CV
> 3608) should be preserved as a CV unit-for
> it was modified extensively at St. Albans.
> The prima facie evidence is the lowered
> short nose.

I know I'm going to be corrected if I'm wrong, but I *think* all the CV RS11's retained their tall short hoods until retirement, and the nose chop was done by the LVRC, NH&V, or some subsequent owner. The CV RS11's are the last mainline Alcos I ever pursued, and every one I ever saw had tall noses. Indeed, I have photos of that very loco in CV paint with a tall nose.


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 Post subject: Re: RS-11 Available ?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:06 am 

> If one takes the viewpoint of a "strict
> constructionist", this locomotive (CV
> 3608) should be preserved as a CV unit-for
> it was modified extensively at St. Albans.
> The prima facie evidence is the lowered
> short nose.
Are not the gvt 1800 1804 ex. cv 3600&3603?

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 Post subject: Re: But when was it chopped?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:15 pm 

Maybe Bob Yarger can confirm on deny-but I do recall seeing a picture (in TRAINS ?) of the 3608
undergoing "rebuild" at the CV's St. Albans shop.
Evidently, this project was a trial balloon that was never repeated.

Yes, two of the GVT RS-11's are ex-CV.

> I know I'm going to be corrected if I'm
> wrong, but I *think* all the CV RS11's
> retained their tall short hoods until
> retirement, and the nose chop was done by
> the LVRC, NH&V, or some subsequent
> owner. The CV RS11's are the last mainline
> Alcos I ever pursued, and every one I ever
> saw had tall noses. Indeed, I have photos of
> that very loco in CV paint with a tall nose.


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 Post subject: 3608 nose chopping
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 7:02 am 

The 3608 came with the last group of RS11s to arrive on the CV from the DW&P. The nose was already chopped when we got it. The rebuild work had been done at the East Virginia shops of DW&P. The control stand had also been changed to run in the short hood forward position. And like all the others, it came with one of those awful Incinolet toilets.


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 Post subject: Re: RS-11 Available ? *PIC*
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:43 pm 

> Are not the gvt 1800 1804 ex. cv
> 3600&3603?

DLWR 1800 ALCO RS-11 5/56 #81934 LANCASTER ex CV 3600, exx DWP 3600 - The first production RS-11, in GVT white/grey paint

DLWR 1804 ALCO RS-11 8/56 #81938 LOCKPORT ex CV 3604, exx DWP 3604 - In GVT white/grey paint

DLWR 3603 ALCO RS-11 8/56 #81937 LANCASTER ex CV 3603, exx DWP 3603 - Stored unserviceable behind enginehouse - parts unit, in CV green/white.

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