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Author:  Mark D [ Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:45 am ]
Post subject:  S.S. Norway no more

I don't think this was posted here, but if it was I missed it and apologize for redundancy.
To follow up on the thread that resulted from the boiler explosion last year, I post this now.
NCL has announced in a final paragraph in a news brief that dealt with other subjects that the Norway will not be returning. It appears to me that they have enough new boats that they don't need the old one anymore. They say they are still considering the boats future, but it is for sure never coming back to the western hemisphere.
It appears also that the S.S. United States deal is dead in the water too. Possibly just ownership of the U.S. built boat is all they needed in the first place. There has been no news from them on it, but with all the new stuff, who needs it?
Mark D.

Author:  James Hefner [ Mon May 03, 2004 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: S.S. Norway no more; adaptive reuse question

It will be interesting to see what becomes of the Norway; floating hotel is one idea I have heard "floated".

The original plan, I believe, was to look at the SSUS after the "Pride of America" and another new build were completed.

The explosion aboard the Norway, and the sinking of the "Pride of America" at dockside in Bremerhaven, Germany no doubt put those plans behind if not cancelled them.

It is also my understanding that the superstructure of the SSUS and similiar vintage steamships were aluminum, while the hull was steel. There is a layer of material between them to prevent corrision at the joint; supposively that material has eroded away.

I think everyone felt that having either the Norway or the SSUS returned to service was a long shot. I just hope and pray neither one goes to the breakers.

I was going to ask this anyway, and this seems to be a good thread to do so: are restaurants a good long term preservation sceme for steamboats and railcars? The idea seems to work short term; but do maintenance costs as the "building" grows old continue to mount until they can no longer be paid for through the restaurants profits?

Or does deferred maintenance to the point where it can no longer be affordably done do them in? Some organizations (like the one below) seem to
make it work long term; others do not. Any ideas why?

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

> I don't think this was posted here, but if
> it was I missed it and apologize for
> redundancy.
> To follow up on the thread that resulted
> from the boiler explosion last year, I post
> this now.
> NCL has announced in a final paragraph in a
> news brief that dealt with other subjects
> that the Norway will not be returning. It
> appears to me that they have enough new
> boats that they don't need the old one
> anymore. They say they are still considering
> the boats future, but it is for sure never
> coming back to the western hemisphere.
> It appears also that the S.S. United States
> deal is dead in the water too. Possibly just
> ownership of the U.S. built boat is all they
> needed in the first place. There has been no
> news from them on it, but with all the new
> stuff, who needs it?
> Mark D.


DiMillo's Floating Restaurant, Portland, ME
james@survivingworldsteam.com

Author:  Richard Glueck [ Mon May 03, 2004 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: S.S. Norway no more; adaptive reuse question

I have long advocated that the S.S. Norway be retroed to her S.S. France paint scheme, illuminated as such, and tied up beside the S.S. United States, also in her original colors, as a hotel convention center complex in the Hudson. The piers are there to do it. Permanent connections would only be a matter of engineering, and the interior spaces could be redesigned as required. Use one ship as an elegant hotel, use the other as the confernece and convention center. Dock them both by the U.S.S. Intrepid, and New York City has an attractive and historically accurate renovation. How beautiful it would be to see ocean liners at the piers by the West zSide Highway once again.

glueck@maine.edu

Author:  Olaf The Red [ Tue May 04, 2004 6:30 am ]
Post subject:  8 Bells for the Norway

Lets us Ring 8 Bells for the Norway.
Save the Patriot State of Mass Maritime at the Indy air and space. She is the last of her class the former Grace Line combo liner Santa Mercedes.
1874

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