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| Author: | Tom F [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Wow talk about being in the right place at the right time. Could not find any information on this incident. Anyone know what happened? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=838vcxVwXOo |
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| Author: | BnOTolSub [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
IIRC, CP crew took headroom out of a yard onto mainline without permission, with VIA train holding the block to proceed. |
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| Author: | joe6167 [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Here's a longer version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9-JyCR1D5w |
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| Author: | NYCRRson [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Well, the good news is that passenger train was about as lightweight as a paper airplane with railroad wheels and could stop pretty dang quickly... The bad news is if that paper airplane actually hit that brick wall of a solid freight train there would be lots and lots of little passenger train bits scattered about... Seems the passenger train engineer remembered his physics classes from high school and was all set to "unload" before the seemingly imminent collision.... Glad nobody was seriously hurt. |
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| Author: | p51 [ Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Anyone who's ever hopped off equipment moving a little too fast for safety knows that engineer was very lucky he stumbled away from the rails. That could have ended badly for him |
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| Author: | Overmod [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
While the official report of this incident is not listed on the TSB Web site, it does exist, and Transport Canada will kindly send you a copy if you request one. It makes highly interesting reading. Here's the URL for Railway Investigation Report R91H0206: https://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/rail/1991/r91h0206/r91h0206.html This contains a link to download a PDF of the report itself, which is easier to read and print out for reference. If that doesn't work e-mail me for a copy. But ... what does it have to do with preservation (other than miraculous preservation of life and limb)? |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Shouldn't this be over in Railfanning? |
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| Author: | car57 [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Sensational headline for an event that happened in 2012......whats it even doing on here ? its Train Odors stuff |
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| Author: | Great Western [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Maybe posted to see if the usual Nellies on here would complain about it. Educational - how to/not to bail off a moving train. Follow up might be how to clean out under-drawers and how to dress and apply ointment to scrapes and bruises. Proves emergency braking capacity of LRC equipment should anyone want to preserve same. |
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| Author: | p51 [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Once in a lifetime is a fair way to describe this video. What are the chances that not only this would happen, but that someone was there shooting video and they also kept their calm and the video didn't get all shaky or away from the subject at the moment the engineer decides to take to the ballast? car57 wrote: Sensational headline for an event that happened in 2012......whats it even doing on here ? Does it belong here?Probably not. Can we learn something from it? Yep, you betcha. Even the pros goof it sometimes! |
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| Author: | PMC [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
car57 wrote: its Train Odors stuff LOL |
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| Author: | Robby Peartree [ Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
When the incident happened is errevant. The real advantage to learning from this incident is the lack of blood letting over the incident. What were the operating rules in effect? What rules violation led to this incident? How do we train others to not make the same mistake? It is sad this was moved to the Rypn basement by pressure of some who do not see the value of this in training crews. Robby Peartree |
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| Author: | p51 [ Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Robby Peartree wrote: It is sad this was moved to the Rypn basement by pressure of some who do not see the value of this in training crews. Good point. |
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| Author: | Robby Peartree [ Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Once in a lifetime video of near fatal head on accident. |
Hi All One of the major changes in railroading over the years is the definition of restricted speed. Many of the early rule books defined restricted speed as the ability to stop within the field of vision short of. Modern books having being able to stop within 1/2 the field of vision short of. There is a significant difference. Further in the video displayed here lets say they are in yard territory. Is the passenger train moving at restricted speed? In El Paso in the late 1990s there was a crew told by the Alfalfa Yard master to go from the yard to the east main which was on the other side of the west main to get from the east to west main there were two cross overs, Now what the yardmaster expected was for them to pull onto the west main and then shove to the east which is how it was usually done. But this crew once on the west main kept pulling to the other crossover. In the end they got into tower 47 territory and 47 had sent a train down that track. Fortunately things did not result in a collision. But the fall out was an investigation. At the time I attended a morning coffee for retired railroaders. An SP official came looking for the old union representative about the incident. They discussed the directions given and the ambiguity of the instructions given. In the end every one understood that mistakes were made by several people. These issues are a part of railroads and their operation. The evolution of the railroad rules is because of incidents that occur that no one expected or as systems became more complicated. This is railroad history that needs to be preserved. Robby Peartree |
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